The Sandy Bridge Review: The New Intel CPUs
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To be fair, I have this same setup on a couple of different boxes, and a few have light overclocks and that cooler does the job just fine.
True, but 99.9 percent of overclockers disapprove
I cannot help it that overclockers are often obsessive and often overcool simply for the sake of overcooling. My temps are low 30's C for a Q9550 running at 3.2Ghz and my CPU gets to just about mid 50's C under full load. That's well within specs for that CPU. All an aftermarket cooler would do for me is decrease my cash flow. My box is rock solid and stable. Dropping my temps by 5-7 C just won't benefit me in any way.
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Thanks. I'll take that as a compliment coming from you
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Yeah that makes perfect sense to me, especially if the high end chips don't contain graphic processors.
As I understand it, the high end CPUs DO contain graphic processors. All Sandy Bridge processors have graphics on the processor.
But the high end chipset (P67), does not support use of those graphics.
To use the built in graphics you must buy a motherboard with the Q, B, or H series chipset.
But an overclocker does not want the Q, B, or H because they do not have the right overclocking features. Overclockers are nearly always going to want a discrete graphics card anyway, so it isn't really a big issue for most people.
I'll likely be getting a motherboard with the H chipset as I don't overclock or game.
The integrated graphics are supposed to be a major improvement and at least the equivalent of a Radeon 5450 discrete card.
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So what all this hype for what?
They moved the onboard quality GPU to the CPU .. now you dont really get a choice of ATI or Nvidia, you get Intel HD.
Nice to have so much extra space on a cpu die to put a gpu, and I not more cpus?
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Not sure where you see "no choice"? Did you read ignatzatsonic's post?
Besides I'm quite sure you'll still be able to use a discrete video card of your choice.
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I look forward to building a Core i5 machine with Sandy Bridge.
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I cannot help it that overclockers are often obsessive and often overcool simply for the sake of overcooling. My temps are low 30's C for a Q9550 running at 3.2Ghz and my CPU gets to just about mid 50's C under full load. That's well within specs for that CPU. All an aftermarket cooler would do for me is decrease my cash flow. My box is rock solid and stable. Dropping my temps by 5-7 C just won't benefit me in any way.
Most 'overclockers' actually overclock though.
Raising a chip a few hundred mhz on a chip that are ostensibly sold as lower speed chips compared to their higher clocked counterparts is all well and good.
But start pushing past the 'barriers' into actual overclocking territory - then those 5-7c make a hell of a difference as do after market coolers.
As for sandy bridge - you don't have to use the IGP, but if they Overclock higher with lower temps (as early benchmarks show, and the BS DRM blah blah that's supposedly built into them doesn't phase you - go for the new chip.
No offence top current AMD users - but current 775/1156/1366 are not missing out on much for 'everyday usage' by not going Sandy Bridge.
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Agree, this is a easy one, if you don't have high temps with your stock cooler then keep it.
If your doing a 30-50% OC, then you'll need a after market cooler.
The medium to heavy user and enthusiasts running a 775 socket system would benifit from a SB rig, or go 1156/1366 for OC'ing if you don't want to buy the K versions.
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Most 'overclockers' actually overclock though.
Raising a chip a few hundred mhz on a chip that are ostensibly sold as lower speed chips compared to their higher clocked counterparts is all well and good.
But start pushing past the 'barriers' into actual overclocking territory - then those 5-7c make a hell of a difference as do after market coolers.
I agree. Don't get me wrong, I just posted my thoughts as it seemed to be that some were scoffing at the Intel cooler as if it were pathetic and useless. At stock speeds it's more than enough, and even with very mild overclocks it handles it. Obviously a moderate to high overclock pushing the chip to it's absolute max is a different story and requires significant cooling changes.
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