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Windows 7: Win7 SP1 released to public

04 Mar 2011   #351
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 
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Have been away for a bit - sick not jail lol!! Now after SP1 my sboot and IE open tiem is still slow the noticeable difference is in the WMP ie. ripping is faster but I don't think the lossless burns are as good a quality.


Anyone else noticed??


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04 Mar 2011   #352
valerian101

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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However, if I were to use your method, I would invest in Acronis' software, as opposed to the Microsoft native backup program.
Hmm... 'Spose I would have to pay for Acronis and I am such a tight old devil!

Hope you're fully fit again, ICit2lol - love your name.
I can't comment on the IE because I use Firefox. The Geeks I know recommend Google Chrome.
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04 Mar 2011   #353
David Ben Yosef

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 RTM
 
 

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Hmm... 'Spose I would have to pay for Acronis and I am such a tight old devil!
Yep...you sure would, but it's the best backup solution available IMHO. Why skimp on something as important as backing up your precious PC? I experimented with the native backup software, and was really unimpressed with it.

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I can't comment on the IE because I use Firefox. The Geeks I know recommend Google Chrome.
Oh no!!! Your going to start a browser debating war!!! Everyone RUN!!! LOL

If you like Firefox, you'll LOVE Lunascape. You can use the same engine as Firefox [Gecko] while keeping all your favorite add-ons, AND get all the cool extra's that come with Lunascape. Give it a try HERE.

Did you notice how I was careful not to degrade any browser? That's what starts the wars. Many people are really sensative about their favorite browser.
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04 Mar 2011   #354
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

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Mind you I'm not knocking making an image, I've thought about it, but just never bothered to actually do it.
I'm not knocking it either. I've done it before just for an experiment, and it actually takes me less time to do a clean install [if I don't zero the disc out first, and just delete the partitions]. I only run about a dozen programs. When you create an installation disc using the WAIK, you can install all your programs at the same time as the OS, and can even make it unattended. It's pretty nice to just boot from DVD, and go watch some T.V for a little while and come back to your loaded desktop with a clean install.
I've been wanting to make an unattended install version for my main desktop. Just the basic stuff that you are asked for during the install, language, region, product code, time zone, etc. I've tried to create the answer file a couple of times but any of the guides I've tried to follow just end up confusing me and giving me a headache. I've been hoping someone would create a tutorial, hint, hint,

Actually, a link to an easy to understand giude would do. I've done it for windows XP before and it was relitively painless. Seems a little more complicated for windows 7 though.
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04 Mar 2011   #355
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 
Hiyya valerian

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However, if I were to use your method, I would invest in Acronis' software, as opposed to the Microsoft native backup program.
Hmm... 'Spose I would have to pay for Acronis and I am such a tight old devil!

Hope you're fully fit again, ICit2lol - love your name.
I can't comment on the IE because I use Firefox. The Geeks I know recommend Google Chrome.

Yeh I thought I might try Firefox again or as well as IE don't know if this will clog up the system but can always take one or the other off if so eh?

Anyway that was suggested to me yesterday as I am getting a fair bit of spam and maybe there's an email I could run through it as an alternative.


Bit OT the name well that's just my bi-polar coming out he he!! Oh and in return I love the Lake district too (ex pat Sussex) and spent some value time there on hols a few years ago, but before I get a slap on the wrists lol!!
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04 Mar 2011   #356
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

I had to use Firefox. For some reason ie locks up my computer almost every time I use it.
Also, if you have a Western Digital or Seagate external or internal HD, they both offer free backup programs which are scaled down versions of Acronis. They are free to download from their web sites. The free version of Macrium is pretty good also and much faster.
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04 Mar 2011   #357
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Have been away for a bit - sick not jail lol!! Now after SP1 my sboot and IE open tiem is still slow the noticeable difference is in the WMP ie. ripping is faster but I don't think the lossless burns are as good a quality.


Anyone else noticed??
Humm, my IE8 is at the moment buggy only with "saving favorites"...it says it can't save in some folders already created, then can save it in the general folder... When i close IE clean the cache, i can save in created folders.

WMP is faster for me searching database librairies and infos, didn't tested yet the burning.

I'm using lossless files aswell but i do burn with another soft.
.ISO image's burning very well here with native Windows 7 command...

About lunascape is a nice browser, that i tested for few month last year. Prefered IE8 for pure commodity and waiting soon that IE9.

I haven't noticed any slow in shut-down and boot session at all...

Only some strange behavior & very very minor ones after boot.
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04 Mar 2011   #358
David Ben Yosef

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 RTM
 
 

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Yeh I thought I might try Firefox again or as well as IE don't know if this will clog up the system but can always take one or the other off if so eh?
I write JavaScript codes for another forum I'm involved with, and have to constantly check the coding for browser compatibility. I have Opera, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Lunascape, and IE all installed on my lab machine, and they run perfectly. It won't "clog" your system one bit, because they are all independent applications.
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04 Mar 2011   #359
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 
New browsers

Yes I found a few in a local mag that I never heard of before but not game to try them until I get my build done. But the slowness of IE9 at the moment 64 or 32bit is pretty ordinary.

The WMP quality issue I might try the VLC app for a comparison can't lose anything.
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04 Mar 2011   #360
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by David Ben Yosef View Post
When you create an installation disc using the WAIK, you can install all your programs at the same time as the OS, and can even make it unattended. It's pretty nice to just boot from DVD, and go watch some T.V for a little while and come back to your loaded desktop with a clean install.
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With the softwares used here you only have so many times allowed to activate them which means a clean install could result in the need to buy a new license for some.
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Well, in that case, making a backup image is the way to go. Personally, I wouldn't own an OS disc that had limited installs. But I do understand that some people have to go that route, for one reason or another. I recommend buying a TechNet account for anyone who is going to purchase Windows 7. The upside to that is astronomical. It pays for itself many times over, especially when you use Office on a regular basis.
Iwasn't referring to any OS disk but various softwares that also require their activation and the limited amount of times those can be reinstalled without a new purchase. Typically you have uninstall each one while still connected online before Windows can see a fresh install with repeat installs of those.

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I was surprised to read that one forum member finds it quicker to do a clean install.
That's only for two reasons though...

1.) I only run about a dozen programs on my machine.
2.) I created an unattended installation DVD that installs all my programs at the same time Windows is being installed. [it took about a week to create that disc]

That method isn't for everyone though. The backup image method you chose is MUCH more popular, and I'm not knocking it. In fact, I condone/advocate that method. However, if I were to use your method, I would invest in Acronis' software, as opposed to the Microsoft native backup program.
I run the Acronos True Image full version here but found the builtin restoration you can start while booted in 7 or from the 7 media reliably restored images to the host drive numerous times in fact prior to getting the present case together.

Acronis T.I. on the other hand seems to restore images to secondary drives unless booted from a recovery disk you have to make up. While in Windows however 7 wins for starting the recovery option.

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It's no surprize that some find it far easier to simply wipe a drive to put a fresh install of 7 considering how much faster it installs over previous versions. The typical time for seeing all setup files copied to the drive and initial restart is at 12min. compared to over 20min. seen with the older versions.
Really? It only took me 8 minutes for XP. But that's because it was a 12x CD, as opposed to a 4x DVD. The XP-Pro SP3 installation flew right along for me. In the end, they are pretty close to the same amount of time for everything.
Dvd? XP came on cd-rs. Vista was the first to see dvd media. On average hardwares here for both of those two previous versions, XP on cd, Vista on dvd they both take about the same amount of time for the initial copy of setup files and finally reaching the desktop the first time coming in at 40+ minutes. W7 = 20minutes total on the same exact hardwares.

The next clean install of 7 with SP1 entered into the mix will be interesting however.

Now speaking about browsers I gathered up a folder full of Windows compatible versions for various browsers with several being dumped after comparisons. But that wouid be material for an entirely new thread on that.

The next image made however will see the final for IE 9 as well as the SP1 included until that eventual clean install comes up.
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