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Windows 7: Internet Explorer 9 Available now!

17 Mar 2011   #151
ncvd

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Installed IE9...and lovin' it.....


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17 Mar 2011   #152
Wordsworth

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

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I can see an admin testing further, and if potential problems are found for an intranet then holding off even on the WU may be in order.
That's the point. Why do you think new products and service packs are usually available, in final form, to MSDN and TechNet first, before the general public? I guess I'm not understanding why there is frustration that it wasn't delivered through Windows Update first. I'd much prefer to have a single file I can use for testing, and then use that file to do all of my installs, rather than direct every computer to WU once I am satisfied it doesn't break anything. IE9 wasn't available in final form to the "testing" community first, so why not make it a manual process so there is a chance to pull the build if it found to have an issue?

Honestly, I would have questioned the decision to make it available on WU first.
I'm looking at this from a home user perspective rather than an IT department perspective, which you appear to be doing. That products and packs are released for IT department use through MSDN, WSUS, and so forth is not what we're discussing. Rather, this is a general availability release of IE9 Final whether through WU or the official MS download page. Until ie9's post stating WU takes place March 21st I had understood that MS would make Final available as of March 15th through WU to RC users, and also to others who wanted to upgrade, through the download site. In either case Final would be universally available for general users. My mistake but understandable given that Windows 7 SP1 general availability occurred February 22nd through both WU and the download site. Where IE9's concerned, for IT departments, perhaps MS should have extended the RC and released Final to them giving them more than this one week window. Another month of RC would not have made a difference to me. But MS made the decision to release IE9 Final in this fashion and thus this discussion is really mute. Their products and they'll release as they see fit.

Personally, since my box is a standalone with only an internet connection I don't need to concern myself with other computers; I decide on a per item basis how I wish to install and for example did a clean install of Windows 7 for SP1 rather than allow WU to simply install the SP over the current 7 install, but had decided to let WU install IE9 Final over RC.

The plans of mice and men. And in the end only a very minor annoyance. There are more important things to me going on in this world than how IE9 gets installed. Nuff said.
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18 Mar 2011   #153
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wordsworth View Post
I'm looking at this from a home user perspective rather than an IT department perspective, which you appear to be doing.
I don't differentiate between the two. I follow the same practices with my company systems as I do with home, family, and friends. I don't see a reason to treat them differently, nor your apparent objection to me doing so.

Let's say my in-laws do all of their finances, banking, etc online. Don't you think it benefits me to tell them yes, IE9 is safe to install, or no, it isn't, let me stop that from installing for you because it has some major issues? How about a family member who attends an online college?

If IE9 is pushed out through WU to all of these computers, they'll get it regardless if it has issues or not. If I get it first through a manual install process, I'm better prepared to say that it works fine or not...and better prepared to answer questions on how it works, where such and such option is, etc.
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18 Mar 2011   #154
Max Power

Window 7 Professional 64
 
 

IE: The browser you use to download the browsers you will use.

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18 Mar 2011   #155
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

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IE: The browser you use to download the browsers you will use.

And also to run Windows Updates.
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18 Mar 2011   #156
Wordsworth

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
I don't differentiate between the two. I follow the same practices with my company systems as I do with home, family, and friends. I don't see a reason to treat them differently, nor your apparent objection to me doing so.

Let's say my in-laws do all of their finances, banking, etc online. Don't you think it benefits me to tell them yes, IE9 is safe to install, or no, it isn't, let me stop that from installing for you because it has some major issues? How about a family member who attends an online college?

If IE9 is pushed out through WU to all of these computers, they'll get it regardless if it has issues or not. If I get it first through a manual install process, I'm better prepared to say that it works fine or not...and better prepared to answer questions on how it works, where such and such option is, etc.
So there's no distinction to be made between a home user and someone with responsibility for a company intranet? Don't you think I can be a little more" experimental" on my home computer if I wish over someone who has that responsibility? Say for example that I wanted to test WU and allow it to install IE9 Final over RC and post here whether it was successful, or not. I should never do that because your company best practices manual says so? I should only cleanly uninstall RC, then install 9 Final?

You say I object to your computing practices but from your first post you have apparently taken exception to mine. The implication of the second paragraph in my previous post was I'll do things in my own way, and by extension you can do them in your own way. I have nothing at stake in how you do things that I'd object.

As for your examples of helping others, instructing them in the use of WU so they can make their own decisions going forward would be the better part, assuming they are adults.
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18 Mar 2011   #157
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

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DeaconFrost and Wordsworth,

Let's keep it friendly and stop this argumentative debate shall we. To each their own. If you can live by that, then do not continue to post about this.

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18 Mar 2011   #158
Fayla

Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

I installed the final of IE 9 but I don't like the end result. Adding favorites made my desktop icons flash and for some reason-- it broke my add/remove control panel item (most of the file sizes and all of the dates vanished.) None of that happened in the prior IE9 versions I tried.

Well, I just removed IE9 and flopped back to IE8 as my secondary
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19 Mar 2011   #159
Vertex

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit
 
 

I think IE9 seems like a much smoother browser. Honestly, I did not try any beta versions nor try the RC. I just get the idea of what it may be doing from the posts of people on this forum filled with opinions and reactions to IE9. I was waiting for it to appear on Windows Update since Monday but till the last time I checked today, it hasnt so I decided to do a manual install today. I give it a thumbs up since it seems to handle things better than IE8 or Firefox sometimes. I9 launches faster than IE8 or Firefox 3.6 and has a minimalistic approach on the UI so it feels a but like Chrome and it "feels" faster in general. But here are a few cons I dislike:

1. The positioning of the tabs being on the same row as the address bar just bugs me. I have to right click on an empty space just outside the address bar and tick "show tabs on a separate row" to get the opened tabs on the lower row below the address bar but inexperienced users would not immediately picture how to do this.

2. Where the hell is the spelling checker? I noticed that as I type my post on this forum.

3. There are still minor bugs in loading some web pages but still much better than IE8.

4. My Desktop gadgets seem to load slower at startup after the time I installed IE9. Anyone else notice this?
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19 Mar 2011   #160
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
I think IE9 seems like a much smoother browser. Honestly, I did not try any beta versions nor try the RC. I just get the idea of what it may be doing from the posts of people on this forum filled with opinions and reactions to IE9. I was waiting for it to appear on Windows Update since Monday but till the last time I checked today, it hasnt so I decided to do a manual install today. I give it a thumbs up since it seems to handle things better than IE8 or Firefox sometimes. I9 launches faster than IE8 or Firefox 3.6 and has a minimalistic approach on the UI so it feels a but like Chrome and it "feels" faster in general. But here are a few cons I dislike:

1. The positioning of the tabs being on the same row as the address bar just bugs me. I have to right click on an empty space just outside the address bar and tick "show tabs on a separate row" to get the opened tabs on the lower row below the address bar but inexperienced users would not immediately picture how to do this.

2. Where the hell is the spelling checker? I noticed that as I type my post on this forum.

3. There are still minor bugs in loading some web pages but still much better than IE8.

4. My Desktop gadgets seem to load slower at startup after the time I installed IE9. Anyone else notice this?
I find IE9 quite nice, first was a bit little suprised by the UI even if i breifly tested a beta stage.

I'm not using that "show tabs on a separate row" because it gain some space on my screen as i like larger view and do not mind compress the bars.

I only have the letters a little blurry (see screenshot) sometimes while browing inside the pages. I know this is something known, but i have to dig again where i found that infos!!!

I have also noticed the gadgets to load slower when i manually launch them, but seems to stabilized after openning some of them.

PS: Back buttons is soooooo big! But so much faster to get back or go next page, so i'll pardon MS not having make it a full round button!


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