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Windows 7: Microsoft Keeps Beating a Dead Browser

04 Jul 2009   #11
steelbom

Snow Leopard (10.6.1)
 
 

I'd like to see it try and out perform Safari 4 o_O

Hehe


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04 Jul 2009   #12
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

Not sure about IE8 (don't use it), but between FF and Opera, Opera comes out the winner. I like the look and feel of Opera right out of the box. The GUI is easy on my eyes, and the Thumbnail view tabs are really quite nice. Firefox is nice, albeit it takes up a great deal of resources and ram (138,000,000). Downloaded Mathon earlier today, but haven't loaded it as of yet, maybe in a couple of hours.
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04 Jul 2009   #13
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Same here, Opera. The mouse movements for control, the extensive config: page for total personalisation, small footprint/easy on the cpu.
Using version 10 now and it is excellent.

And this page Opera Browser Wiki :: Custom Buttons to Drag'n'Drop into your Opera comes in handy as well

I use IE only for the really messed pages which won't load properly in any other browser. Such as my bank works with IE6 upwards only.
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04 Jul 2009   #14
Zirro

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 
IE8 is not Dead

I have to diagree with comments like IE8 being a dead browser.
Every site I've visited works in IE8 whereas with FF some sites just crash.

IE8 is actually quite fast on my Win 7 64-bit.
Double the speed of FF and IE7.

Tried Chrome but it is not even stable yet! Not the revelation I was led to expect.

At work they will use IE8. As long as it remains stable I will just use that for now. Just waiting for IE7Pro to be updated to fully complement IE8.

Might try Chrome again in a few months. It shows promise but still needs work.
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04 Jul 2009   #15
swarfega

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

IE8 certainly isnt "dead". Its probably the best version theyve had to date. Its fast and stable.

In my view chrome is still an unfinished product, once it gets addons then it might improve.
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04 Jul 2009   #16
Charles Kane

Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zirro View Post
Every site I've visited works in IE8 whereas with FF some sites just crash.

Tried Chrome but it is not even stable yet!

At work they will use IE8. As long as it remains stable I will just use that for now.

Might try Chrome again in a few months. It shows promise but still needs work.
Zirro; which are these sites which "Just crash" in Firefox? I've been using the fox for years and i surf a lot and widely and I have never once found a site which didn't render, or which crashed the browser (I presume that's what you mean by "some sites just crash".

I have found sites which render differently in the two browsers - but which one is correct? Bad code will render badly.

And there are sites which will not allow the planned interaction with the sites - mainly special javascript logins - like some banks, and I can't login to lifehacker (or that family of sites) using FF.

Not a deal killer - usually I just use a FF add-on (ie tab) and all is well.

On the other hand I find IE clunky, slow and limited. Sites don't appear to render "correctly". I accept some of this is because I'm so used to Firefox. (Although for those of us who like flexibility - Firefox is surely the winner).

And my experience with IE is that it DOES crash. At least more often than FF. The implementation of some of its new tools is poor, which is a pity because the tools are based on good ideas.

I do chaff at the suggestion that IE is stable and FF is not. They are both pretty stable! Certainly however much I liked it I would drop FF in a moment if it were not stable - I use it 12 or more hours a day for every imaginable purpose (including my work) - It has to be very stable.

I accept the criticism of memory use. (Actually the same criticism can be applied to IE). But I also claim that there's way too much emphasis on this.

Memory is there to be used, not saved! What are we saving it for? Especially in 7 where memory use is so well managed by the system.

As you can see from my specs I run an oldish single core system with not much memory. Yet I routinely run FF with 10 or more tabs open, PhotoshopCS4 with multiple images open and multiple layers active, an IM (Digsby), file browser windows, Snagit, Widgets AND Gadgets, a media player, uTorrent, Evernote and Word - all run just fine and sweet - and yes, they "use up" much of my memory. So what?! That's exactly what it's for!
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04 Jul 2009   #17
Firestrider

Linux (Debian, Android)
 
 

I see no perceivable difference in page load times between FF3.5 and IE8 (maybe there is if you have a slower processor or internet connection). I keep on coming back to IE8 because it has a streamlined UI (when you remove unnecessary toolbars), favorites are easily accessed on your hard drive, accelerators actually help with tasks, its quite customizable without the need for add-ons, and it integrates well with Windows (group policy, windows updates, file association)

Sure it doesn't support some standards like CSS3, HTML5, and SVG but most people won't go to sites that use that. Also embedded video in HTML5 actually takes up more CPU time than Flash or Silverlight right now.
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04 Jul 2009   #18
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

"IE8 crashes a lot...." "IE is a dead browser..."

Which IE8 are you folks using? Must not be the same one I use.

I have tried Opera and FF on and off over the years and keep coming back to IE in part because people I support all use IE. However, IE8 seems to have overcome the shortcomings of IE6-7.

I notice that many of the posters state "I switch to IEx when I have to access the so-and-so site, but I like FF and/or Chrome and/or Opera..." Has it occurred to anyone that complaints of frequent crashes/problems in IEx seem to be most frequent among people with 2-4 or more browsers installed?

Is the frequent crash due to IE8 problems or the add-on browser(s), or possibly the combination?

It matters not really as the "hate anything MS" crowd will always exist and will always find rallying points in IE8 or MS Office. I just wonder why they are not posting in a Linux forum but instead are ranting in a .... yeah you guessed it a ...

WINDOWS 7 FORUM.

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04 Jul 2009   #19
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by holo88 View Post
f**k IE8. and that's all, i have, to say, about, that.
(lol @ forest gump ref)

don't buy into MS's scheme, Aussies! those starving countries need to learn how to farm!
so, in the scope, IE8 is making people stupider-er! farm dammit! farm!

ok, im going to sleep. (FF, FTW)
Learn to farm , Are you for real ?

The link in the OP states that the food bank donations are for American ppl in need of food. Learn to share would be a better quote IMHO.

Internet Explorer 8 - Browser for the Better


I found the "Sick" advertisement amusing , not in a fan boy way either ... Just that Microsoft is hinting that the man should hide his internet activities from his wife. Obviously a happy and fulfilling marriage depicted in the advert....me thinks not.

I have tried FF,Opera,Chrome,Safari and various other browsers in the past, but IE8 suits me just fine for the time being.

As for browsers not rendering a web page correctly, Surely this is a developers problem and not the browser manufacturer at fault ?
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04 Jul 2009   #20
Charles Kane

Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post
"IE8 crashes a lot...." "IE is a dead browser..."

Which IE8 are you folks using? Must not be the same one I use.

Has it occurred to anyone that complaints of frequent crashes/problems in IEx seem to be most frequent among people with 2-4 or more browsers installed?

Is the frequent crash due to IE8 problems or the add-on browser(s), or possibly the combination?

It matters not really as the "hate anything MS" crowd will always exist and will always find rallying points in IE8 or MS Office. I just wonder why they are not posting in a Linux forum but instead are ranting in a .... yeah you guessed it a ...

WINDOWS 7 FORUM.

Few points here.
There is a huge variation in peoples experience on different systems with the same software. So just because you never experience an I.E. crash doesn't mean I have that experience.
Discussing that doesn't make me unreasonable or an I.E. hater. (I know some of us, even here, go a bit over the top - I for one just factor that in and try to stay cool).

If IE is crashing (or vice versa) because I have FF or Chrome also installed then we really DO have a problem. Or rather Windows does. I don't accept that for a moment, I've never seen it suggested anywhere and I can't think of any reason why it might be so.
Also they are not "add-on browsers" as if I.E. is the one and only. They are all alternative to one another.

I don't see any "hate anything MS" crowd here. Even the strongest opinion here comes from members who are generally active in a positive way in this Win 7 Community who actively use Microsoft products.
Crtitcism even dislike does not equal hate , certainly not "hate anything MS".
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