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Windows 7: Ribbon Explorer

05 Apr 2011   #51
burtie

Vista/Windows 7
 
 

I have to admit, at first I hated the ribbon but the more I have used it with office 2010 the more it has grown on me. I've learned its totally customizable by altering the tabs or making your own up and adding all the commands you want. I would love for explorer to have this feature so I could add all my favourite and most used commands to explorer. Also they should think about giving explorer tabs like IE (I use classic shell in W7 for this) but it would be great if it was a bilt in feature.


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05 Apr 2011   #52
Vertex

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit
 
 

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That is the killer argument for any progress.
I am open to change. Thinking about it, I assume many people who hate or would hate the ribbon on Windows Explorer got the same opinion on this. Its just unattractive for us. I love the ribbon for Office, Paint and Wordpad but for Windows Explorer, like what I said, its a different thing and I don't like it there. Period.
I guess you will have the option to stay on Windows7 - or maybe XP. But it is good that you guys cannot hold up progress.
You got my point very wrong!!!! I would love to move on to Windows 8 and I'm sure many would but I just don't like the ribbon thing on Windows Explorer and its good that at least there's a feature to hide/disable it. If you like the ribbon thing, fine, that's your opinion but its wrong for you to assume that just because me and some other people don't want the ribbon for Windows Explorer means we rather stay on Windows 7 or Windows XP and would not move on to Windows 8. I completely agree with severedsolo, just because we don't like the ribbon for Windows Explorer doesn't mean we stand in the way of progress in general.

I love the ribbon because it does me very well on Office, Paint and Wordpad but on Windows Explorer its a different thing.

Microsoft once said "technology doesn't stand still and neither could we" but I do believe that we have ways on improving that most would still agree on.
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05 Apr 2011   #53
Stormkitty

7x64 SP1
 
 

Case in point on Ribbon: I work for a very large retailer in Canada (over 100,000 employees) The few computers we have use Office 2003 because corporate doesn't want to have to wait for everybody to learn how to use the ribbon. Corporate has made no indication that they plan on changing away from Office 2003 anytime soon because everybody knows the UI.

In any case I think the Ribbon is just change for the sake of change outside of Office. I understand why they did it for Office but I don't think it has any place in the explorer windows.
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07 Apr 2011   #54
ssbtech

7HP
 
 

I'm not a fan of ribbon. I'm a tech guy so I don't mind learning something new.

For me, it's the amount of space it takes up on the screen. Visually it is too bulky looking for me. Even Windows 7's taskbar got the small icon treatment on my computers.

To me, simplicity is keeping things small and unobtrusive, not making buttons and menus duplo-block sized.
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07 Apr 2011   #55
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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I'm not a fan of ribbon. I'm a tech guy so I don't mind learning something new.

For me, it's the amount of space it takes up on the screen. Visually it is too bulky looking for me. Even Windows 7's taskbar got the small icon treatment on my computers.

To me, simplicity is keeping things small and unobtrusive, not making buttons and menus duplo-block sized.
A little tip - why don't you hide the taskbar (can do the same with the ribbon - there it is called "minimize". Just right click on the ribbon and click "Minimize Ribbon"). I do that on the laptops. On the desktops it does not matter. There I have plenty of real estate.
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07 Apr 2011   #56
ssbtech

7HP
 
 

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A little tip - why don't you hide the taskbar (can do the same with the ribbon - there it is called "minimize". Just right click on the ribbon and click "Minimize Ribbon"). I do that on the laptops. On the desktops it does not matter. There I have plenty of real estate.
The hidden task bar bugs me even more

I like having a taskbar, I just don't need a massive one.

i'm also not a big fan of all the pinned, combined buttons. I've gotten rid of all the pinned stuff, restored my Quicklaunch, etc...
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07 Apr 2011   #57
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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A little tip - why don't you hide the taskbar (can do the same with the ribbon - there it is called "minimize". Just right click on the ribbon and click "Minimize Ribbon"). I do that on the laptops. On the desktops it does not matter. There I have plenty of real estate.
The hidden task bar bugs me even more

I like having a taskbar, I just don't need a massive one.

i'm also not a big fan of all the pinned, combined buttons. I've gotten rid of all the pinned stuff, restored my Quicklaunch, etc...
Hmm, I never liked Quick Launch. It is too restrictive and hard to keep order in it. I prefer a Toolbar. There I can park 50 or 100 shortcuts and order them in subfolders by subject ( websites, programs, folders, etc.). See here for detail: Toolbars - How to Use in Windows 7 and Vista
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07 Apr 2011   #58
ssbtech

7HP
 
 

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Hmm, I never liked Quick Launch. It is too restrictive and hard to keep order in it. I prefer a Toolbar. There I can park 50 or 100 shortcuts and order them in subfolders by subject ( websites, programs, folders, etc.). See here for detail: Toolbars - How to Use in Windows 7 and Vista
Well hopefully any future version still allows customizability because clearly everyone likes something a bit different.

I use QuickLaunch for a few apps that I use regularly.

Now I'm one of those guys who has 30 icons on his desktop, but I use a program called Stardock Fences to keep them grouped and organized.
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07 Apr 2011   #59
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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Hmm, I never liked Quick Launch. It is too restrictive and hard to keep order in it. I prefer a Toolbar. There I can park 50 or 100 shortcuts and order them in subfolders by subject ( websites, programs, folders, etc.). See here for detail: Toolbars - How to Use in Windows 7 and Vista
Well hopefully any future version still allows customizability because clearly everyone likes something a bit different.

I use QuickLaunch for a few apps that I use regularly.

Now I'm one of those guys who has 30 icons on his desktop, but I use a program called Stardock Fences to keep them grouped and organized.
I don't like shortcuts on the desktop. I want to see my pictures from my last vacation - not icons. And all my shortcuts would not fit on the desktop anyhow (over 100).

The shortcuts I use ALL the time, I park on the taskbar and in the (hidden) Rocket dock). All the others are either in the start menu or in the toolbar (way over 50 neatly organized in folders).
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07 Apr 2011   #60
wds7

WDS 7 Home Pre.x64
 
 

You got my point very wrong!!!! I would love to move on to Windows 8 and I'm sure many would but I just don't like the ribbon thing on Windows Explorer and its good that at least there's a feature to hide/disable it. If you like the ribbon thing, fine, that's your opinion but its wrong for you to assume that just because me and some other people don't want the ribbon for Windows Explorer means we rather stay on Windows 7 or Windows XP and would not move on to Windows 8. I completely agree with severedsolo, just because we don't like the ribbon for Windows Explorer doesn't mean we stand in the way of progress in general.

I love the ribbon because it does me very well on Office, Paint and Wordpad but on Windows Explorer its a different thing.

Microsoft once said "technology doesn't stand still and neither could we" but I do believe that we have ways on improving that most would still agree on.[/QUOTE]



Well said .... me too ..i love MS office ribbon .... but NOT on explore ...

I can tell now I'll be the first to get wds 8 as soos as it comes out ..
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