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Windows 7: Windows 7 Pre-Sales Remain Strong

10 Jul 2009   #31
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

No,, that didn't work for me, but it isn't important, because I do not have Vista anyway. I will be using XP Pro x64 to do the upgrade.


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10 Jul 2009   #32
Jacen

Windows 7 Ultimate 6.1.7600 Build 7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Thanks, that is definitely a better breakdown than what I had read. There still isn't alot of extras in the Pro version over the Premium, but there were a couple of things that caught my eye. I really don't know if I would ever use them, but EFS, backup to network, remote desktop host, offline files and location aware printing are things that I will have to look deeper into. There are some other differences, but I doubt that I would ever use all of the items that I listed.
Especially the ability to install Max RAM at 196GB
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10 Jul 2009   #33
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
No,, that didn't work for me, but it isn't important, because I do not have Vista anyway. I will be using XP Pro x64 to do the upgrade.
You better plan on a clean install of 7 when the time comes then regardless of which edition you buy an upgrade disk for being that you will be going from XP to 7. Here's a little more on that from Softpedia.

"As far as Windows XP users are concerned, Microsoft indicated that upgrade licenses of Windows 7 will be available to them, superseding the existing XP licenses, and that the upgrade media can be used in order to move to Windows 7. However, the transition implies a clean installation of Windows 7 rather than an actual in-place upgrade. Still, the deal has to please XP users, as they will get the full Windows 7 bits at a discounted upgrade price. Users are advised to back up all their data from the partition where XP is installed before deploying Windows 7, just to be on the safe side."
Upgrade Options: XP to Windows 7, Vista to Windows 7, Windows 7 to Windows 7 - XP users will have to clean install Windows 7 via the upgrade media - Softpedia
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10 Jul 2009   #34
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jacen View Post
Especially the ability to install Max RAM at 196GB
I seriously doubt that I will ever be able to install anywhere near that much ram. I have 4GBs now, but the largest ram sticks that I have seen for my system are 2GBs each, which would still only give 8GBs total. It makes me wonder what they have planned?
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10 Jul 2009   #35
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
You better plan on a clean install of 7 when the time comes then regardless of which edition you buy an upgrade disk for being that you will be going from XP to 7. Here's a little more on that from Softpedia.

"As far as Windows XP users are concerned, Microsoft indicated that upgrade licenses of Windows 7 will be available to them, superseding the existing XP licenses, and that the upgrade media can be used in order to move to Windows 7. However, the transition implies a clean installation of Windows 7 rather than an actual in-place upgrade. Still, the deal has to please XP users, as they will get the full Windows 7 bits at a discounted upgrade price. Users are advised to back up all their data from the partition where XP is installed before deploying Windows 7, just to be on the safe side."
Upgrade Options: XP to Windows 7, Vista to Windows 7, Windows 7 to Windows 7 - XP users will have to clean install Windows 7 via the upgrade media - Softpedia
Yes, that is exactly what I intend to do. The only thing that you have said that bothers me, is the part about the W7 license superceding the XP license. Would that mean that I couldn't maintain a separate XP installation on a separate harddrive?
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10 Jul 2009   #36
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
I seriously doubt that I will ever be able to install anywhere near that much ram. I have 4GBs now, but the largest ram sticks that I have seen for my system are 2GBs each, which would still only give 8GBs total. It makes me wonder what they have planned?
The max I saw for the 64bit Vista Enterprise was about 128gb of ram being the corporate server type OS to begin with. I doubt even an engineer or Eistein would need a 100+gb to start with!

CAD projects and other programs can get quite large at times but that's still under 10gb. But over time as the typical desktop softwares continue to grow the increased capacities seen on newer boards could be taken advantage of there when the extra ram is called for.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Yes, that is exactly what I intend to do. The only thing that you have said that bothers me, is the part about the W7 license superceding the XP license. Would that mean that I couldn't maintain a separate XP installation on a separate harddrive?
I can't what would prevent an XP installation from simply being on another primary let alone on a totally different hard drive! With the previous setup here I actually XP and Vista on two drives with each seeing a second primary for the beta releases.

You are simply providing verification that you already own a licensed genuine copy of a previous version of Windows when providing the product key there. You can expect to a little more detailed installation information from MS on how to go about things in October once the actual release date is being closed in on.
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10 Jul 2009   #37
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
The max I saw for the 64bit Vista Enterprise was about 128gb of ram being the corporate server type OS to begin with. I doubt even an engineer or Eistein would need a 100+gb to start with!

CAD projects and other programs can get quite large at times but that's still under 10gb. But over time as the typical desktop softwares continue to grow the increased capacities seen on newer boards could be taken advantage of there when the extra ram is called for.
The only thing that I can see really large amounts of RAM being useful to me for, is a RAM drive. That's a good way to get a high speed drive, without cramming another expensive harddrive in.


EDIT: Let's see...if someone produced a 49GB stick of non-volatile RAM, you could install 4 sticks to have a 196GB RAM drive, that would be a real speed demon. (less whatever amount is required for the other normal operations).
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10 Jul 2009   #38
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Well first off you would never see any 49gb anything simply from being an odd not even count! 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, and so on with 48gb being 1.5 times 32gb there. You have to follow the increments as far as memory is concerned.
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10 Jul 2009   #39
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
Well first off you would never see any 49gb anything simply from being an odd not even count! 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, and so on with 48gb being 1.5 times 32gb there. You have to follow the increments as far as memory is concerned.
Details, details...isn't that where the Devil is?
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10 Jul 2009   #40
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Details, details...isn't that where the Devil is?
I didn't write the details just reflect on them!
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