WD Caviar Green HDDs Suffer from a Critical Design Flaw

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It has been recently discovered that Western Digital's line of Caviar Green hard disk drives, one of the company's most popular HDD ranges, is suffering from a critical design flaw which can cause the drives to behave abnormally, and could even lead to performance losses and a shorter HDD lifespan.
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Great...everybody keeps saying what good drives that WDC has, but I keep getting lemons. My WDC Green is in an external case, connected via a SI eSATA card. It wasn't clear to me how to run this fix, because the drive doesn't directly connect to the MB, thus the SATA/IDE isn't controlled by the BIOS.
 

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I still say they're good drives (Caviar Blacks) just stay away from the greens ;)
 

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I've never had a single issue with the Greens and indeed they don't seem to have very inflated Load counts for me, but I set it to 300 seconds anyways. Also, for those who say the Blacks don't have this feature: wdidle3 detected and changed the park timer on my 2TB Caviar Black from 12 seconds (the apparent default).
 

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Phew... my two WD10EVDS are spared!
 

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I still say they're good drives (Caviar Blacks) just stay away from the greens ;)
I have 3 black FAEX lemons that say otherwise.
 

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Glad I don't buy WD anymore.
 

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I still say they're good drives (Caviar Blacks) just stay away from the greens ;)
I have 3 black FAEX lemons that say otherwise.

Our black drives, and come to think of it, the green ones, don't appear to have given us any grief (yet).

Weird how different folk have different experiences with them.:confused:
 

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I've got a number of Caviar Blue's at work (10+), and I have a Caviar Black at home and am happy with all of them.

As my external "green" drive, I went with a 2TB Samsung SpinPoint series and have been very, very pleased with it.
 

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Global recalls are never good for PR :) It's so much easier to "sit on" the problem and phase out the bad product line for a new, corrected product line.

Only came to their attention because WD finally admitted to it...
 

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This is such old news, over a year old I think.

I just set the parking timeout to a very long time and my load/unload cycle counts are really low on my 2TB EARS Green.

It is a great drive - fast and quiet. I use it in an external eSATA enclosure.

And I wouldn't consider it a design flaw, but an implementation flaw that has a simple fix.
 
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HP pushed out a software update for customers who bought machines with the 1-2TB 'Green' drives over a year ago. I got an email from them about it, strange this isn't news for me.

I would have posted about it had I realized it played out like this..

EDIT: Here is a copy of the email for anyone interested, and this is very dated, which I think is important to keep in mind.

******************************************************************

URGENT SUPPORT NOTIFICATION FROM HP

******************************************************************

Dear HP Customer:

Our records indicate that you purchased an HP desktop computer
system with a 1 TB, 1.5 TB or 2.0 TB hard disk drive. As part of
HP's commitment to producing reliable, high-quality products, HP
and its suppliers have developed a software update that eliminates
the possibility that the hard disk drive used in the model of HP
desktop that you purchased could fail to save data properly.

Although the possibility that this issue could affect your
computer is small, HP strongly recommends that, as a preventive
measure, you immediately apply the update to your desktop
computer. The update is available on the HP web site, and it is
also available through the HP Update utility software that is
preinstalled on your desktop computer once you are connected to
the Internet.

To apply the update to your desktop computer, you may either
accept all HP Updates or log on to www.hp.com and download the
software update. It is not necessary to use both options.


The steps to download the update from hp.com are:

1) Open http://www.hp.com

2) Click on the "Support & Drivers" tab.

3) Click "Download drivers and software (and firmware)."

4) Enter your product name/number (for example, "p6218f").

5) Click on "operating system" and then select either
Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit) or Microsoft Windows
(64-bit).

6) Under "Firmware," click on "Western Digital SATA Hard Disk
Drive Firmware Update."


The Steps to run HP Update are:

1) Click Start.

2) In the Programs menu, click HP or Hewlett-Packard.

3) Click HP Update. The HP Update program starts.

4) On the HP Update screen, click Settings.

5) Use the Settings menu to adjust how often the program
checks for updates.


Keeping HP Update enabled is the most effective way of making
sure that you receive important updates for your computer in the
future and HP encourages its customers to make use of this
helpful utility.

If you have any questions, please contact HP Support at
1-800-HPINVENT.

Sincerely,

Hewlett-Packard Company
 

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Crap, I have three of the WD15EARS in a server waiting for a fourth one. I guess I better check these out and give them the fix.
 

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Description

This firmware modifies the behavior of the drive to wait longer before positioning the heads in their park position and turning off unnecessary electronics. This utility is designed to upgrade the firmware of the following hard drives: WD1000FYPS-01ZKB0, WD7500AYPS-01ZKB0, WD7501AYPS-01ZKB0.
CAUTION: Do not attempt to run this software on any hard drives other than what is listed above. Please make sure that the computer system is not turned off during the firmware upgrade. Doing so may damage the hard drive beyond

The above is from WD>
WD Support / Downloads / SATA & SAS / WD RE2-GP

According to Western Digital, the following models are affected: WD20EADS, WD20EARS, WD15EADS, WD15EARS, WD10EADS, WD10EARS, WD8000AARS, WD7500AADS, WD7500AARS, WD6400AADS, WD6400AARS, WD5000AADS, WD5000AARS, WD1000FYPS, WD7500AYPS and WD7501AYPS.

Western Digital has released a DOS-based utility to modify the behavior of the HDD to wait longer before invoking idle mode. However, since most of their latest HDDs still ship with the default setting of 8 seconds, we strongly recommend users with affected HDDs to use the utility and monitor S.M.A.R.T data immediately.



This is from:
Critical Design Flaw Found in WD Caviar Green HDDs

I don't know who to believe. I have a WD10EADS Green drive without any symptoms. One souce says it is affected but WD says it is not.?
 

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Whoops I didn't know this :confused: lol I ran it on my WD10EAVS anyway just to be on the safe side everything went smoothly and it doesn't seem to have taken any damage.

I love clear and precise info :D
 

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I have also used Fedora, Suse, Ubuntu Linux
And all other Windows from 95 to date except ME
I have some 7 yr old IDE WD drives I used on my old system that are in great shape. I now have two WD 1TB Cavier Black Sata II drives with 5 yr warranty. If they crash I get new ones and in 5 yrs they will be outdated and new and faster drives will be available so no worry here.

Jim :geek:
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows...Phenom II X6 1100TCrucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
CPU
Phenom II X6 1100T
Motherboard
ASUS M5A99X EVO
Memory
Crucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VE258Q 25" LED with DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two WD Cavier Black 2TB Sata III, WD My Book Essential 2TB USB 3.0
PSU
Seasonic X650 80 Plus GOLD Modular
Case
Corsair 400R
Cooling
Antec Kuhler H2O 620, Two 120mm and four 140mm
Keyboard
Logitech K120
Mouse
Logitech Marble Mouse USB, Logitech Precision Game Pad
Internet Speed
15MB
Antivirus
Norton IS 2013, Malwarebytes Pro Beta 2
Browser
IE-11, FF-27
Other Info
APC UPS ES 750, Netgear WNR3500L Gigabit & Wireless N Router with SamKnows Test Program, Motorola SB6120 Gigabit Cable Modem. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer, Epson V300 Scanner
Just bought a WD 1TB Green 3 weeks ago. Only use it to store stuff, so it's not accessed all that often. I'll check if mine needs the fix.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 8.1 Pro x64Intel Core i7 4790k8GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHzMSI TwinFrozr GeForce GTX770
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 4790k
Motherboard
MSI Z97S Krait Edition
Memory
8GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI TwinFrozr GeForce GTX770
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar DX/XD 7.1
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24" S2409W + Dell 20" E207WFP
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 + 1680x1050
Hard Drives
1x 120GB OCZ Agility 3, 1x 750GB Western Digital Caviar Black, 1x 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue
PSU
Corsair HX850 modular
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
Corsair H60 w/ twin Corsair SP120 fans
Keyboard
Logitech G510S Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech G500S Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
40Mbps
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Google Chrome
Other Info
LG Blu-Ray player
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