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Windows 7: AMD Bulldozer Can Reach Up to 4.1GHz with Turbo Core Enabled

24 May 2011   #41
JeremyAlexander

Windows 7 Profesional 64 Bit
 
 

No my son has an aging emachines and needs my (el cheapo) amd Athlon IIx4 620 for dirt 2 and dirt 3 he's all excited about even though he hasn't finished dirt 2. But the point is I get an upgrade out of the deal and I don't have anything that's affordable that would be too much of an upgrade if I try to stay with AMD is all I'm saying. It's just really becoming clear to me that the intel's prices will drop before amd ever has anything to match the price point, if that makes any sence.


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24 May 2011   #42
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

I just built a Sandy Bridge rig. About 3 days later the Motherboard to my 1055T died. So, lets see-- I have a case, PSU, about 5 hard drives an SSD. You know, that Bulldozer thing might just work. Just thinking out loud...
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24 May 2011   #43
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JeremyAlexander View Post
No my son has an aging emachines and needs my (el cheapo) amd Athlon IIx4 620 for dirt 2 and dirt 3 he's all excited about even though he hasn't finished dirt 2. But the point is I get an upgrade out of the deal and I don't have anything that's affordable that would be too much of an upgrade if I try to stay with AMD is all I'm saying.
If you can wait about 3 more weeks you might have some new options. I want to see some real unbiased reviews. But rumor has it that it is supposed to be good.
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24 May 2011   #44
hjonesMCT

Win7 Ultimate x64, Server 2008 R2
 
 

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I WANT A BULLDOZER.

just because it's expensive and shiny and 2 more cores than my 1090T
Me too!
WHEEEE! It's an AMD fanparty!!

Seriously, though, I have an extra 1090T. Ridiculous. My computer was slowly dying over the past year and I couldn't figure out why; it turned out I had the rare "proc-that-still-worked-but-had-a-dead-core"!!! The 6th core was totally toast and would corrupt files, cause random memory-based BSODs, and totally befuddled me until I got fed up (because I couldn't play SC2 at a LAN party) and ripped it apart and bought new parts until it got fixed. Now after RMA I have 2 procs. And now Bulldozer comes out... WHY, AMD, WHY?
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24 May 2011   #45
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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[Myself tho, honestly, I just cannot overlook AMD's prices. But who knows, perhaps Ivy Bridge will pull off an i5 type part that's fantastic.

The next few months are going to be a party for us tech heads
I just haven't found that AMD chips are superior per dollar in the past few years. Sure, if all you count is cores, then the 6 core AMD is far cheaper than the 6 core Intel. But if you consider that the 1100T usually benchmarks a little lower than a core i5 2500 and both are the same price...i don't see the huge value appeal that AMD used to have.

It will be interesting to see where this goes. I currently have a 2 year old Q9550 quad core. And for everything I do, it's still more than enough. So, I decided to skip the Core i3/5/7 and I'm skipping Sandy Bridge too. Unsure if this Bulldozer option will make me reconsider, or if I am simply going to wait for the next big thing after Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge.
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24 May 2011   #46
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
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[Myself tho, honestly, I just cannot overlook AMD's prices. But who knows, perhaps Ivy Bridge will pull off an i5 type part that's fantastic.

The next few months are going to be a party for us tech heads
I just haven't found that AMD chips are superior per dollar in the past few years. Sure, if all you count is cores, then the 6 core AMD is far cheaper than the 6 core Intel. But if you consider that the 1100T usually benchmarks a little lower than a core i5 2500 and both are the same price...i don't see the huge value appeal that AMD used to have.

It will be interesting to see where this goes. I currently have a 2 year old Q9550 quad core. And for everything I do, it's still more than enough. So, I decided to skip the Core i3/5/7 and I'm skipping Sandy Bridge too. Unsure if this Bulldozer option will make me reconsider, or if I am simply going to wait for the next big thing after Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge.
I think you have just nailed the real issue. All of us tech heads (myself included) always want the newest fastest Rig around. We look at benchmarks and say the i5 can out perform the 1090T, so I'm going for the i5. The truth is that the i5 will out perform most chips, but do we really need that much power and speed? I doubt many of us on this forum have ever maxed out and boged down a 1090T. It will do anything we want it to. So why, other than ego or something, did I buy a Sandy Bridge rig. It really wasn't because I needed more performance. Truthfully, I could probably be happy with a Piix4. But like someone said earlier, I wanted one of those new shiney things. I wanted it - but didn't need it. Most of us don't really need what we already have.
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24 May 2011   #47
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Most of us don't really need what we already have.
Funny, just had this conversation with a coworker who just upgraded his Core i7-920 with 6GB of RAM, Nvidia GTX 285 GPU, 620w Corsair Modular PSU, and 80GB Intel SSD and 2 x 10,000RPM RAPTOR RAID 1 in an Antec P182 case to a shiny new Core i7-2600k, 8GB of RAM, OCZ Vertex 3 SSD, running Dual AMD 6970 GPU's, in a Corsair 600T.

He said, "yeah, I don't really even know why I decided to upgrade this Core i7-920, it's got more power than I ever use" Somebody at work said, why don't you sell your old box to Pat (me), he said..."he wouldn't want this old thing". And I said, while you are right I'm not going to buy it, you do realize it's better than my highest end box that I use at home which I still consider to be a beast.

It all comes down to priorities I guess. For my coworker, he is married, but no kids and no plans for kids. His computer is what he does. I've got kids, cars, and lots of other hobbies. So for me, it's usually a new computer every 2-3 years.
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25 May 2011   #48
Wallonn7

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hjonesMCT View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wallonn7 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hjonesMCT View Post
I WANT A BULLDOZER.

just because it's expensive and shiny and 2 more cores than my 1090T
Me too!
WHEEEE! It's an AMD fanparty!!

Seriously, though, I have an extra 1090T. Ridiculous. My computer was slowly dying over the past year and I couldn't figure out why; it turned out I had the rare "proc-that-still-worked-but-had-a-dead-core"!!! The 6th core was totally toast and would corrupt files, cause random memory-based BSODs, and totally befuddled me until I got fed up (because I couldn't play SC2 at a LAN party) and ripped it apart and bought new parts until it got fixed. Now after RMA I have 2 procs. And now Bulldozer comes out... WHY, AMD, WHY?
Do not cry, my dear ... I have a solution for your extra processor: make a soul happy, donate it!
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26 May 2011   #49
Rhammstein

HP Win7 Pro x64 | Custom Win7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Rhammstein View Post
[Myself tho, honestly, I just cannot overlook AMD's prices. But who knows, perhaps Ivy Bridge will pull off an i5 type part that's fantastic.

The next few months are going to be a party for us tech heads
I just haven't found that AMD chips are superior per dollar in the past few years. Sure, if all you count is cores, then the 6 core AMD is far cheaper than the 6 core Intel. But if you consider that the 1100T usually benchmarks a little lower than a core i5 2500 and both are the same price...i don't see the huge value appeal that AMD used to have.

It will be interesting to see where this goes. I currently have a 2 year old Q9550 quad core. And for everything I do, it's still more than enough. So, I decided to skip the Core i3/5/7 and I'm skipping Sandy Bridge too. Unsure if this Bulldozer option will make me reconsider, or if I am simply going to wait for the next big thing after Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge.
Think upgrade path. Over the last few years, those running AMD systems could simply drop in a new quad, and recently, hexcore, without upgrading their board, or Ram.
I find AMD still superior > performance-per watt-per dollar. My 1100T is $199, there's nothing it can't do, and an i5 could never render or multi-task as well, costs more and requires all new parts around it. It's no surprise AMD is the gamers choice, and surprising as it is, tons of benchmarks show AMD superior at extreme resolutions. Honestly I don't understand it, the Intel's are technically faster, but something about the architecture has this happening. (This was versus first gen core chips) AMD has been simpler and cheaper, compared to those on Intel platforms the last few years, constantly having to purchase and re-purchase boards and memory.

I hope the 8130p and Llano APU (Zacate will without a doubt be a nightmare for Intel, they absolutely can no longer compete with AMD in the mobile space, not even close) cause serious problems for Intel, after reading and discovering what I'd always suspected. Although I'm very dissapointed AMD settled, they should have sacrificed the short term money, and let the public know what Intel did. Pretty hard to focus on chip design and manufacture when your competitor is making it impossible to sell your present chips. I'll never, ever buy an Intel product. I just hope nothing overly nasty comes out of the AMD camp, I'd have to switch over to PowerPC!

Half asleep and half joking, but whatever. 8130 here I come.
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26 May 2011   #50
cmd187

Debian Squeeze Stable 64-bit
 
 

That 1100T may be great at multitasking or rendering but anything Intel 1156 or 1155 quad will murder it gaming FPS wise. The difference is rather minimal though.
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