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Windows 7: Windows 7 RC To Final Upgrade Possible

11 Jul 2009   #31
copernicus

7264x64/7260x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by garbanzo View Post
i don't think so... it sounds like the upgrade needs to be installed over an activated version of windows. if the beta/rc builds stop activating, then this little trick won't work...
Until they kill the activation servers it'll work though.

It may not be free copy for participation in beta testing, still a nice tip of the hat to the users.


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11 Jul 2009   #32
quickquestion

Mac OS X
 
 

Well I ordered it. I hate Microsoft for overpricing everything and making everything so complicated when it should be like Mac OS X - No serial, no activation, one version, one low price.
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11 Jul 2009   #33
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by quickquestion View Post
Well I ordered it. I hate Microsoft for overpricing everything and making everything so complicated when it should be like Mac OS X - No serial, no activation, one version, one low price.
I'll take the complicated activation of an OS if it means drastically cheaper hardware...
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11 Jul 2009   #34
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fakeasdf View Post
I'll take the complicated activation of an OS if it means drastically cheaper hardware...
Don't forget the customization.

~Lordbob
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11 Jul 2009   #35
harpua

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 (Retail)
 
 

If in fact having an activated version of windows on the drive is going to be required to install and activate W7 RTM using upgrade media & key, then I think that once you have installed and activated Win 7 RTM, you will subsequently be able to use your now activated install of W7 RTM as your activated version of Windows to reinstall or clean install using upgrade media at any time in the future. This idea that you have to use an older version of Windows or the RC doesn't seem right to me and I think it is simply wrong. So, if I'm right there will be no one install limitation, imo.

I think it has to be this way because MS basically has to allow you to do repair installs (which are really upgrade installs) of your activated W7 RTM, even if it was originally installed using an upgrade media and key. Jmo, but I bet this turns out to be the way it works.
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12 Jul 2009   #36
garbanzo

7600 x86
 
 

i still have a question about this: is there a difference between an Upgrade Serial and a Full Serial?

meaning, if i buy an Upgrade edition, then install off of a Full edition DVD, can i activate it using the Upgrade serial i bought?
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12 Jul 2009   #37
Brand

Windows 7 Enterprise x64 [dual boot with Windows Vista Enterprise w/SP2]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by garbanzo View Post
i still have a question about this: is there a difference between an Upgrade Serial and a Full Serial?

meaning, if i buy an Upgrade edition, then install off of a Full edition DVD, can i activate it using the Upgrade serial i bought?

I'm afraid there is such a small difference that Full edition will recognize the license key of Upgrade edition, and prompt you to use it with an Upgrade disk, although there is the wide discussed trick to override it.
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12 Jul 2009   #38
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by harpua View Post
If in fact having an activated version of windows on the drive is going to be required to install and activate W7 RTM using upgrade media & key,......
Agreed....

Is an upgrade going to requires an activated version of Windows ON THE DRIVE or just an activated (legal) PRODUCT KEY?

Several posts have referred to having the original installation media but that makes no sense as it is the product key, not the media that is significant.

Will a user be able to buy the upgrade and do a clean install directly to a new disk drive by manually entering the previous Windows version product key?

It is the same scenario as some have suggested where a user does a successful upgrade/clean install of WIN7 and blows away the original Windows installation. Later that user has a hard disk failure and buys a new disk drive. Now what is MS's proposed re-install method for this completely legitimate and highly probable scenario?

Let's complicate things, does the ORIGINAL Windows have to be a retail key? What if it is an OEM key? What if the "ORIGINAL" key is itself an XP to Vista UPGRADE key?

Seems as though I have run into this Catch 22 before on a Win98 to WinXP upgrade. The Win98 key was itself and upgrade from '95 to '98 (or was it '98 to '98SE?). Anyway it was a while ago.... In the end I needed the ORIGINAL NON-UPGRADE Product Key. BUT, I did not have to re-install the original OS just to do the final upgrade.

Hmm.......
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12 Jul 2009   #39
zay

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Upgrade product keys and full version product keys are different. Basically, you cannot use a product key for an upgrade installation, and then attempt to that same key when performing a full installation.
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12 Jul 2009   #40
djfirestorm

Windows 7 (Build 7068)
 
 

One thing I am not so easy about. If you buy an upgrade based on RC1-RTM and loose your hard disk, what happens when you need to completly reinstall Full after March next year...after all, you cant activate the RC-RTM after that date....Microsoft is not stupid, its a scam, after march/10, if you are using the upgrade edition based on the Windows 7 builds, you will get screwed and have to buy a Retail or OEM copy to use it again. After all, MS is clear that it needs an activated copy of Windows 7 RC/RTM!!! The only way I can think about it is if you buy a small hard drive, activate a RC or RTM and keep it for future reinstall. Just clone your drive, then install via upgrade! Oh but wait, the copy deactivates after March 2010. What is the Fn point of that? Scam Scam Scam. Rape the testers when they discover they can't reactivate their upgrade license after March 2010!
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