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Windows 7: Office 15 M2 Build 15.0.2703.1000 Leaked and Available for Download

06 Jun 2011   #11
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

People normally complain about the ribbon until they actually start using it full-time. My users aren't very tech savvy at all, but after about 2-3 weeks when we switched to 2007, they started loving it, and telling me all the ways the ribbin saved them time and mouse-clicks.

For me, it's now painful to go back and use 2003. It was good in it's day, but give me the newer ribbon UI.


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06 Jun 2011   #12
abuttino

Windows 7 RTM x86/x64
 
 

Where is Exchange 15? These products are usually developed together.
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06 Jun 2011   #13
GEWB

Linux (Mint is primary) / XP, Win7 Home / Win7 Pro, Ultimate / Win8.1 / Win10 archived VM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
People normally complain about the ribbon until they actually start using it full-time. My users aren't very tech savvy at all, but after about 2-3 weeks when we switched to 2007, they started loving it, and telling me all the ways the ribbin saved them time and mouse-clicks.

For me, it's now painful to go back and use 2003. It was good in it's day, but give me the newer ribbon UI.
As a senior technical writer working in a Microsoft shop, for my work Office 97 was the most productive - 2007 and 2010 are the least productive and the ribbon is one reason why (but not the only reason).

For those persons who don't really need most of what Word offers (what's that, maybe 98% of all users?) the ribbon makes no difference.

On the plus side, every time MS puts out a new version of Office it means MORE TRAINING $$$ for consultants (guilty as charged)...great ROI for corporate users (not!).

Regards,
GEWB
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06 Jun 2011   #14
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

There are plenty of examples where common functions are made easier with the newer versions and the ribbons. If my non-tech users can say that and prefer the ribbon, it definitely isn't more difficult or less efficient. Honestly, most people who are against the ribbon are only saying so because it is a change. Change is bad to a lot of people...even if the change is a positive one.
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06 Jun 2011   #15
GEWB

Linux (Mint is primary) / XP, Win7 Home / Win7 Pro, Ultimate / Win8.1 / Win10 archived VM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
If my non-tech users can say that and prefer the ribbon, it definitely isn't more difficult or less efficient.
As I also stated above.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Honestly, most people who are against the ribbon are only saying so because it is a change. Change is bad to a lot of people...even if the change is a positive one.
< begin rant > Believe me, you DON'T know what's best for me or my profession. Change is not always for the better, unless you are talking about Microsoft's bottom line by selling more bloated software with virtually useless "imporvements." < /end rant >

Regards,
GEWB
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06 Jun 2011   #16
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

I really can't compare Office versions, because 2007 is the only one that I know...at least partially, and I can't think of any reason that I would pay for a newer version. I did have 2010 beta for about a year, but with what little that I used it, I didn't find anything very special about it.
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06 Jun 2011   #17
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I couldn't agree more that change doesn't always mean better. However, I can see tangible results with the ribbon UI, even for non-techy users. Take Excel. When there are several formatting options to apply to a column, you can highlight the column and click each one on screen at once, instead of having to revist the menu several times, or dig deeper to open the dialogue box. Take PowerPoint. My users can change through fonts and sizes on the fly to find one that fits the slide's title or content, without having to revisit a menu after each choice.

For the record, I'm not telling you what's better for you personally. I'm giving facts to show that a person can't make a generalization against the ribbon. Some hate it, but many have found it increasingly useful. A percentage of those who hate it, have given up on it before getting used to it. That's why I said that many people fear change, and therefore assume change is bad.
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06 Jun 2011   #18
Coke Robot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Oh, I love the Ribbon! Initially when it came out with 2007, I didn't like it so, but after some time I love it! I also love the Backstage view in 2010 with the File tab, that is AWESOME!!
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08 Jun 2011   #19
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.2 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Don't like it, but c'est la vie

Unless it's obvious where a function should be, I'm forced to check every tab/ribbon.
For example when I wanted to import templates into Word 2007, I couldn't find any way of doing it.
After consulting the Help files, I discovered that I had to turn on another ribbon!

All of the ribbons look the same (i.e there is no indication of which ribbon you are using, except the tab name).
The menus appeared in different locations, so there was a pattern that you could subconsciously remember.

I also find Quick Parts awful.
What idiot thought that a non-resizeable window was a good idea for that function?

C'est la vie.
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08 Jun 2011   #20
Lebon14

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

I like the ribbon. dot.
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