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Windows 7: Apple demanded Microsoft to stop its Laptop Hunters ads

20 Jul 2009   #51
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

After years of smear tactics against Msoft they want an add that isn't nearly as offensive taken off the air?

They had it coming for a long time now and now they can suck it up and take the same abuse they have been dishing out for years. What comes around goes around.


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20 Jul 2009   #52
grouchpunk08

Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64
 
 

Wow, apple can't take what they dish out or what? I mean, apple had those mac commercials with justin long and that pc guy, dissing pc's about viruses and whatnot. Now that microsoft is retaliating, apple is getting all pissy.
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20 Jul 2009   #53
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
After years of smear tactics against Msoft they want an add that isn't nearly as offensive taken off the air?

They had it coming for a long time now and now they can suck it up and take the same abuse they have been dishing out for years. What comes around goes around.
Indeed.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by grouchpunk08 View Post
Wow, apple can't take what they dish out or what? I mean, apple had those mac commercials with justin long and that pc guy, dissing pc's about viruses and whatnot. Now that microsoft is retaliating, apple is getting all pissy.
And Microsoft is just pointing out how overpriced Macs are. I believe that the Laptop Hunters ads actually acknowledge the "cool" factor of Macs, while Apple's commercials portray all us PC users as dorky losers. So Apple gets to promote their products AND send a bad message to kids/teens all in one ad!
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20 Jul 2009   #54
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Yeah these ads are spot on accurate. I'm tired of how Apple always makes it seem like if you want to do some generic task that they are the only ones who can really do it correctly and provide a suitable outcome.

My biggest complain with Apple has been and will continue to be...they are way too pricey for what you get. Plain and simple. It takes more than a shiny case and some bouncy icons to make me realize how much money something just cost me. I don't really have that many problems maintaining a PC and I can buy a nice desktop and a nice laptop for the price of 1 MacBook Pro...so it's pretty much a no-brainer.
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20 Jul 2009   #55
Nax Shale Chan

Windows 7 Ultimate RC1 Build 7100
 
 

Great arguments, all around...

As for Apple products... While they might seem more secure than PCs, that is at least a 70% load of BS. As long as the common PC user ********s a good amount of common sense, and keeps an antivirus program installed, has Windows Firewall up (or similar), they can be just as secure as a Mac.

It is a simple matter of how many people are attacking each respectively. Every day, there are hundreds, if not thousands of attacks made on PCs. On the other hand, very few are made against Apple. This is the entire basis of Apple's "more secure".

Whoever said someday, some blacklist organization will trash Apple just to make an example, I agree completely. One day, somebody or bodies are going to trash Apple's OS to make their point. Apple is not invincible, or even more significantly more secure than Windows.

(About pricing... Yep, I could get a laptop and a desktop with better specs than a MacBook Pro for the same price of 1... absolutely. )
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20 Jul 2009   #56
patrickt

Windows7 beta 7000
 
 

Actually reminds me of when my kids were six and seven. My daughter comes into the room screaming, "Daddy, Sean hit me back." She couldn't figure out why I was laughing.
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20 Jul 2009   #57
MorganC

Windows 7 Build 7100 (x86)
 
 

What about the Mac VS PC ads? Mircosoft never demanded Apple to stop those. Sigh.
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20 Jul 2009   #58
Master Chief

Windows 7 Build 7127 (64-bit)
 
 

When I saw those ads all I could think was "F*** yeah, go MS!" which is something I haven't said in a looong time.
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20 Jul 2009   #59
lokiundergod

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BCXtreme View Post
I find it so strange that Apple can get away with whatever bad business practices they want, with ZERO consequences. The EU is getting on Microsoft's case for bundling Internet Explorer with Windows; why not attack Apple for bundling Safari with OS X? Microsoft is accused of maintaining a monopoly in the PC market; Apple's legal department considers it a crime to install OS X on a computer they didn't build. People like us run hundreds of programs on our computers that have not been certified by MS; Apple has a killswitch in place on the iPhone that can let them deactivate any app on the device if they suddenly decide they don't like it.
Very poignant argument and well thought-out post. I often bring up similar points when discussing the benefits and drawbacks of the different operating systems. A perfect example is that my in-laws bought a Macbook and tried to connect an mp3 player, then complained when it didn't want to sync with iTunes. "I thought Macs were just supposed to work." To which I replied "Yes, they do...when you buy other Apple products." They weren't quite as happy with it after that.
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20 Jul 2009   #60
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lokiundergod View Post
Very poignant argument and well thought-out post. I often bring up similar points when discussing the benefits and drawbacks of the different operating systems. A perfect example is that my in-laws bought a Macbook and tried to connect an mp3 player, then complained when it didn't want to sync with iTunes. "I thought Macs were just supposed to work." To which I replied "Yes, they do...when you buy other Apple products." They weren't quite as happy with it after that.


I actually snorted some water up my nose.....

Very true, all of you. Well said, and great explanations.

The thing is, most people that use Macs for a real use, such as media editing, and so on, know how to use them. They have been trained with them, and everything they have works with them. They also would have a Mac expert standing by on a phone line somewhere (lol).

Your average PC user is just that; average. Most people use PCs. This means that most of them just don't know a lot about computers. Sure, they can run them, get internet, check their mail, maybe browse YouTube. But that is it. They may not run an AV, they may not know they need it! They just want it to work for what they need. They don't push the limits.
They get angry when it doesn't work. There are enough bugs in Windows that it is bound to happen. Which is why tech support works so well.
Now, what Apple says, is true. Really it is. They DO just work.
Really.

As long as you use all Apple products with them.
As long as they are compatible.
As long as you bought the warranties for them to get the tech support.


The difference with PCs, is that NO, it DOES NOT always work! WE know that. The general public does NOT. Which is why Apple's point is VALID, if phrased in a bad way.
PCs "Just Work" with MORE things than Apple does. It is just that you need to make sure it is all compatible.

PCs require a higher level of expertise, and if we were to train all of our PC users with just a LITTLE bit more technical knowledge, Apple would be out of the PC business!

However, they do make really nice mp3 players.

~Lordbob
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