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Windows 7: For the nth time, they keep saying the PC is dead.

17 Jun 2011   #61
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Buddahfan View Post
..... which will in effect become the PC of the future. ...............................

Hi there

When is a PC not a PC ??

A tablet with a proper OS and a Keyboard -- or why not even an Iphone with usb or another type of port so you can plug in a LARGE monotor and proper keyboard.

That's just as good as a PC as a "Normal PC".

What about "Blade servers" -- these are thin rack mounted PC's but don't look anything like a conventional PC -- but they run Windows or other OS'es and are 100% PC's.


The statement "The PC is dead" is really meaningless -- I DO like the idea of a smart phone being able to run as a PC however -- so come on Nokia -- your shares and market have totally tanked recently --here's a way to get back into the game -- maybe MS is already thinking along these lines.


Cheers
jimbo


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17 Jun 2011   #62
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.2 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
The Government and Corporations

Don't forget, if the Cloud doesn't instantly generate mega-profits, the companies involved will start lobbying Congress to change the rules.

The "cover story" will probably be something like:
  • Only evil hacker enemies of the US need desktops.
  • Only pirates need personal offline data storage.
  • Only terrorists need personal offline data storage.
(sarcasm)
"If you've got nothing to hide, you don't have to worry about the Government and Corporations scrutinising your data."

(/sarcasm)

Clarification in red
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17 Jun 2011   #63
xarden

Windows 7 Enterprise
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
"If you've got nothing to hide, you don't have to worry about the Government and Corporations scrutinising your data."
Remind me why they have a problem with Julian Asange?
Oh yes. Because they too have stuff to hide that's now been scrutinised (publicly)
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17 Jun 2011   #64
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.2 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Indeed

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by xarden View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
"If you've got nothing to hide, you don't have to worry about the Government and Corporations scrutinising your data."
Remind me why they have a problem with Julian Asange?
Oh yes. Because they too have stuff to hide that's now been scrutinised (publicly)
Indeed.

Of course we're probably both on the "Terrorist Watch" list now.
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18 Jun 2011   #65
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by strollin View Post
For gamers and techies like us, the desktop PC may never die but remember that we are the minority. The average user just wants to browse the web and access frivolous sites like Facebook and Twitter so they have no use for a desktop PC. Desktop sales have been sinking for quite some time, most new computer purchases are laptops.

To get an idea of what cloud computing really is (not just storing data on-line) take a look at Google Docs. You can create documents, spreadsheets, presentations, etc... without installing any software except a browser. When "the cloud" is fully implemented you will only need a dumb terminal device running a browser, essentially your OS, everything else will be in the cloud. We've got a ways to go before that comes to be but it is what we are moving to and for the average user it will do the job.


Hi there
the main reasons that most PC purchases are laptops are

1) an increasing number of people who use Computers at work are people like I.T consultants who often travel to remote sites and therefore NEED to have a computer -- often needing different applications at different sites -- not possible to provide via standard "Fixed desktops".

2) Even Non I.T people take stuff home to work or work from home -- usually they will connect to an office VPN or server via a Laptop.

3) Lots of companies now find it increasingly better to just provide central I.T security services and allow people to use their own computers - as people usually these days have far superior computers to the often Dinosaur models lurking around in old office cupboards.

I've seen some places where a few old WINDOWS 2000 Machines were STILL IN SERVICE - but fortunately being phased out. By allowing the use of people's own laptops the company can cut down HUGELY on the PC purchase, upgrade and maintenance costs -- but of course the network has to be managed securely so you will still need albeit a SMALLER but a GOOD I.T dept.

Cheers
jimbo
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18 Jun 2011   #66
strollin

W10 Pro desktop, W10 laptop, W10 laptop, W10 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
 
 

At my company, we are now given a choice, we can have a desktop or a laptop but not both. Just about everyone chooses a laptop since it is more versatile. I have a laptop since I work primarily from home. I agree that one of the reasons for the drop in desktop sales is due to IT choosing that platform.

However, even home users are now opting for laptops over desktops. Many gamers build their own machines to get max performance with lowest cost but many would just as soon buy a gaming laptop rather than put in the effort to build. Other home users simply prefer a laptop and since prices of laptops have dropped significantly in the last few years they are more attractive.
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18 Jun 2011   #67
zEric7x

Windows Home premium 64bit
 
 

A laptop for me personally does everything I would want. I like that I can carry my laptop around with me when I travel. If I had a desktop it would be fixed in my room and not go anywhere. Yes my laptop probably is not powerful compared to a desktop but its plays all the games I like so far. Plus when I start going to college it will be nice to bring my own laptop with me everywhere. I dont have anything against desktops. If I had my way I have a nice laptop and a desktop. As for tablets and stuff like that I find them pointless to me so far. I would accept one as a gift of course but I wouldn't buy one myself.
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18 Jun 2011   #68
LiquidSnak

W7 Professional x64
 
 

Long live my windows 95 box! Which I have to use to do certain tasks because W7 can't handle things that old.
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18 Jun 2011   #69
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zEric7x View Post
As for tablets and stuff like that I find them pointless to me so far. I would accept one as a gift of course but I wouldn't buy one myself.
Agreed. If I were a doctor or something, and I needed to see charts and things, then yes, give me a tablet. Otherwise, I'll stick to my old "dead" PC, which blow the keys off of most laptops, with sheer brutish computing power.

Seriously, my company provides both a laptop and a desktop, and I have my own desktops at home for development and gaming. I like my G15 keyboard, and my 23" monitor far too much to use a lappy all the time. Desktops have their place, and so do laptops, but tablets, smartphones, and the like just aren't powerful enough to do it for me. Maybe I'm too old, but I don't get the big allure.
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18 Jun 2011   #70
strollin

W10 Pro desktop, W10 laptop, W10 laptop, W10 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mellon Head View Post
... I like my G15 keyboard, and my 23" monitor far too much to use a lappy all the time. ...
I use my company provided laptop for all my company work but I have a 22" monitor, external full-size keyboard and BT mouse attached to it so it seems very much like I'm working on a desktop.
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