For the nth time, they keep saying the PC is dead.

jimbo45 said:

My main hassle with laptops is not the CPU power actually - it's usually the limited amount of RAM you can stick in them -- I use Virtual Machines a lot -- usually these don't cause a huge amount of CPU consumption but theu do need RAM -- it would be nice to be able to fit at least 8GB RAM into a typical lap top / notebook. Even the small acer netbooks have enough CPU power to run a VM concurrently with your desktop OS.

Cheers
jimbo

HP's Elitebook line of notebooks can take up to 4 times that amount if you really want to. You could load up 5 copies of Win7 x64 in sep VM's just so you can show people that you can, lol.

Boastree said:

As someone that knows something of computers I would not be caught dead in a Best Buy store.

Best Buy is an absolute rip off and I almost feel bad for people who purchase anything from there (especially computer hardware). The marked up prices can get pretty bad as i've seen graphic cards before almost $100 more than newegg. You also need to watch their online prices vs the store. The last time I bought a HD I had to have it that day and couldn't wait for shipping. So I went to the store and low and behold the HD I picked from their online selection was $30 more at the store(no advertised sales). I was able to get it @ online advertised price after they looked it up themselves but that's really not acceptable. Who knows how many people got ripped off on that deal. I strongly advise to do your research and shop around before stepping foot in that store. Its not a place for impulse buyers as you may get burned.

jr26 said:

Boastree said:

As someone that knows something of computers I would not be caught dead in a Best Buy store.

Best Buy is an absolute rip off and I almost feel bad for people who purchase anything from there (especially computer hardware). The marked up prices can get pretty bad as i've seen graphic cards before almost $100 more than newegg. You also need to watch their online prices vs the store. The last time I bought a HD I had to have it that day and couldn't wait for shipping. So I went to the store and low and behold the HD I picked from their online selection was $30 more at the store(no advertised sales). I was able to get it @ online advertised price after they looked it up themselves but that's really not acceptable. Who knows how many people got ripped off on that deal. I strongly advise to do your research and shop around before stepping foot in that store. Its not a place for impulse buyers as you may get burned.

OH! Don't even get me started with best buy! That's one of very few things on this earth that can get me into a rage!! Not mad, but full on fury that churns inside you!!

For those who thumb their noses at the big box stores like Best Buy, they serve a useful purpose. Some folks may not want to wait 3-4 days (or longer) for delivery from one of the established on-line stores. Or the added shipping/handling fees negates any savings. Others may like the idea of seeing/touching something before buying and think the extra cost is worth it. The next time you find yourself with a project that needs to be finished by tomorrow (homework, business, etc.) and your computer borks, you'll be glad there was a Best Buy in your neighborhood. :)



As far as the PC being dead, the one thing most people fail to mention is the onerous caps ISPs are imposing on people for bandwidth usage. Even if a smart phone or tablet could (conveniently) make that new spreadsheet or move those 50 stored jpegs to another computer in time for that presentation, how many would be willing to pay Verizon, AT&T, or some other provider huge sums of money each month because they exceeded their caps? And even if people are willing to pay these huge sums, how long before the ISPs raise their fees yet again, reduce your monthly bandwidth again, or both?

These so called "enlightened experts" are often times nothing more than "paid marketing pundits" that have a stake in communicating a message to help increase the sales of other software or hardware.

I'm sick of hearing CNBC having their interested parties telling me that "the cloud is the future" considering the SERIOUS security issues of having my data on some virtual server out there, and the possible cost of utilizing it to a large degree, I seriously doubt that the cloud will replace the current PC method for a long time....hopefully never.

I always love visiting Tom's Hardware forums because you have a pretty savvy group of users over there, not all including myself are experts or programmers writing code, BUT when you bring up the subject of "The Cloud" it instantly brings out the justified hatred of it.

I remember when CNBC was dropping hints about the next big thing in computing "TC" about four years ago, interestingly they didn't tell you exactly what it was just that it was "The Future" of the internet and personal computing.

Now I know why, if they had let the cat out of the bad at the very beginning the negative aspects would have been out there for savvy buyers and users to think about in depth, instead they strung people along with the term and only gradually went into detail.

I personally will NEVER let any of my most private info loose on a cloud platform, ever!

Death to the Cloud!

legacy7955 said:

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I personally will NEVER let any of my most private info loose on a cloud platform, ever!

Death to the Cloud!

do you use email?

if so, your 'private' messages and attachments are 'loose on a cloud'...

It's not the PC that's in trouble, but the PC industry - it is eyeing Apple's revenue streams with green envy and lots o' sadness and despair, and can do nothing about it.

The PC is here to stay, and we should include the Macs in this category too - as we all like (or would like) to have a home we can call our own, we all like to have a computing home base that is totally ours and under our control & our watchful eyes.

jp07764 said:

I was in best buy a few weeks ago.
I noticed that all the PCs are moved
out of view and they only have 5 on display.
The rest is laptops and tablets.
The PC will be dead if stores do not want to sell them any more.
Even online there are not many to choose from.

Just my 2 cents.
Jimmy

actually the article is referring to laptops as pc as well. the fools want all of us on the so far worthless pads. the main reason for repair you have to send it to the manufacture, whereas with even a laptop you can find a local shop that can fix it.

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Excellent reasoning!

I totally agree.


How are you going to upgrade that stupid "pad" or tablet ? Oh, that's right you really can't, you have to go BUY a completely NEW ONE!

It's the same old story. Keep saying it long enough and loud enough, soon a lot of people are going to believe it. Maybe even you'll convince yourself. The PC is not dead yet and not likely to be for some time to come.