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Windows 7: SSDs are fast, but do they last?

02 Aug 2011   #31
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

You under estimate Christ. Not that it really matters, because for him, computers are trivial.


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02 Aug 2011   #32
smarteyeball

 
 

Maybe I do. Or maybe he is bad at IT support. It's not an RMA process I'm likely to deal with.

You're right about it not mattering though, figments rarely do.

At any rate, I know he'd have an SSD and to hell with the consequences
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02 Aug 2011   #33
Tarka Dal

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Runckle_SP1 View Post


Rubbish! You can transfer the disc to another drive to recover all the info on it. You can't with an SSD.

Hardly rubbish.

If by 'transferring the disc to another drive' involves moving delicate parts like platters etc to another drive, then the validity of that recovery method automatically eliminates the vast majority of home users.

The percentage who go to such lengths to recover data are minuscule in comparison to those who do not. The same applies to SSD drives.

The most common fault with SSD's lie with the controllers - not the nand that that contains the data. Replace controller, recover data. Once again however, what percentage of users would go to such lengths?

Mechanical HDD's may have a few more 'second chance tricks' available compared to SSD's, but regardless of drive, once they are dead, they are dead. Kaput. Broken. Inoperable. Unusable. In short - they are ****ed. They have ceased to function. Not even Christ himself armed with a bagful of miracles can recover data from a dead drive.


So for all intents and purposes, to the vast majority of consumers; a dead HDD is as good as a dead SSD.

The only use for a SSD is as previously said the OS and Raid or cloud computing where that drive holds a percentage of the information carried. A HDD can be recovered by a specialist if required an SSD can not! If your talking about home computing you need an HDD backup!

P.S. What happened to your eye!
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02 Aug 2011   #34
yowanvista

Windows 10 Pro x64, Arch Linux
 
 

SSDs are overpriced compared to HDDs and don't offer larger capacities
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02 Aug 2011   #35
Dave76

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Runckle_SP1 View Post


Rubbish! You can transfer the disc to another drive to recover all the info on it. You can't with an SSD.

Hardly rubbish.

If by 'transferring the disc to another drive' involves moving delicate parts like platters etc to another drive, then the validity of that recovery method automatically eliminates the vast majority of home users.

The percentage who go to such lengths to recover data are minuscule in comparison to those who do not. The same applies to SSD drives.

The most common fault with SSD's lie with the controllers - not the nand that that contains the data. Replace controller, recover data. Once again however, what percentage of users would go to such lengths?

Mechanical HDD's may have a few more 'second chance tricks' available compared to SSD's, but regardless of drive, once they are dead, they are dead. Kaput. Broken. Inoperable. Unusable. In short - they are ****ed. They have ceased to function. Not even Christ himself armed with a bagful of miracles can recover data from a dead drive.


So for all intents and purposes, to the vast majority of consumers; a dead HDD is as good as a dead SSD.
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Runckle_SP1 View Post
The only use for a SSD is as previously said the OS and Raid or cloud computing where that drive holds a percentage of the information carried. A HDD can be recovered by a specialist if required an SSD can not! If your talking about home computing you need an HDD backup!
SSDs can be used for any data storage.
The only thing that is preventing this is the price, and that will go down, eventually.

There are some failed HDDs that can't be recovered and even some that can would be very expensive.
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02 Aug 2011   #36
Tarka Dal

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Quote:
SSDs can be used for any data storage.
The only thing that is preventing this is the price, and that will go down, eventually.

There are some failed HDDs that can't be recovered and even some that can would be very expensive.
I'll do it for free but the parts need to be supplied.
& no Guarantees
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02 Aug 2011   #37
Dave76

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That's good, I'll contact you if one fails, do you pay for the shipping?

I keep several backup images, yes, on HDDs, so it's easier to get a new HDD as they are still pretty cheap.

If my SSD died, I would cuss a bit and then go buy another one.
The SSD testing I mentioned previously, one is at 300+ TiB and still going strong, most of the others are over 200 TiB and none have died, yet.
There was another test being done that went over 1 PB, the guy evidently got tired of writing to it after a year, so stopped.
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02 Aug 2011   #38
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by yowanvista View Post
SSDs are overpriced compared to HDDs and don't offer larger capacities
They are far more expensive that HDD's, but they are substantially faster. Access times of 0.1ms versus 12-15ms on most standard HDD's.

Large capacities are usually not available or are tremendously cost ineffective. But the beauty of the SSD is to run your OS and programs from. You should continue to use HDD's for the storage of all data. Therefore, you likely don't need huge capacities.
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05 Aug 2011   #39
toughbook

 
 

I once read a great qoute.

The only people who have nothing but negative comments about SSD's are the one's who can't afford them.

If you were to be given a SSD and used it I am 100% positive you would not want to give it back for your mechanical HDD.

I am currently using my 5th SSD. From a very Intel SLC to a Samsung 470. I have never had as much as a hiccup. I just can't say that for all the spinners I used to own. Heck, I even put one of my old SSD's in my Directv DVR Talk about getting thru the guide in no time!
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05 Aug 2011   #40
Dave76

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+1,
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