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Windows 7: Bug in Windows 7 RTM

08 Aug 2009   #121
nate42nd

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DJG View Post
Some people like to "collect RAM" but hate to use it, in case it gets worn out and loses its resale value ...
If you are referring to me, I WANT to use all my RAM. I just don't a bug to ruin any of my prized hardware or software.

Also Muad Dib, Thanks for the info. I read the whole thread. It appears there is no real solution. I have up-to-date drivers for my chipset. I will have to run it sooner of later but don't want to waste 2 hours and get a BSOD. I am getting write errors on my external drive trying to create a disk image so I have a feeling I need to run it.


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08 Aug 2009   #122
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wii Master 64 View Post
what's so bad about RAM getting used? doesn't it normally always go back down? and i don't see myself using this function when i get windows 7 and i only have one hard drive.
You will run it sooner or later, directly or indirectly. It does not hurt to run it periodically as a maintenance check. I usually run it after an image backup(s).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DJG View Post
Some people like to "collect RAM" but hate to use it, in case it gets worn out and loses its resale value ...
I like to keep all my bits new and shiny. The used ones I save in a bit bucket and put in a yard sale.
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08 Aug 2009   #123
Snufffed

 

Again, here we go, it turns out to be DRIVERS for certain Chipsets.
It is not the OS. I have ran chkdsk /f on all 8 of my HDDS, and nothing has happened BAD. it just keep on chugging.
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08 Aug 2009   #124
Antman

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
Again, here we go, it turns out to be DRIVERS for certain Chipsets.
It is not the OS. I have ran chkdsk /f on all 8 of my HDDS, and nothing has happened BAD. it just keep on chugging.
The issue is with /r not /f.

The intermittent BSODs reported may be related to the non-standard lack of a page file on systems where chkdsk /r is executed.

The BSODs reported may also be another example of unsourced citations.

Please provide a source for "it turns out to be DRIVERS for certain Chipsets". My challenge of your previous claim remains unanswered. I can source a rebuttal from MS that the claim is unsubstantiated.
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08 Aug 2009   #125
Snufffed

 
several notices

Quote:
[QUOTE]A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no | Ed Bott's Microsoft Report ...
But when you look more carefully, it's arguably a feature, not a bug, and the likelihood that .... Gee, I use chkdsk /f on occasion AnythingButViista | 08/06/09 .... The only show-stopper here is the average consumer... *NEW* vulpine@. ...
blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1235 [/QUOTE]
Quote:
Microsoft denies CHKDSK bug is 'critical show stopper' Microsoft denies CHKDSK bug is 'critical show stopper' ... Sinofsky went on to say that this is not a big issue but that Microsoft will ...
www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/18762.cfm
Seems that most ppl do not have any problems.. with CHKDSK
PS:
CHKDSK [volume[[path]filename]]] [/F] [/V] [/R] [/X] [/I] [/C] [/L[:size]] [/B]

volume Specifies the drive letter (followed by a colon),
mount point, or volume name.
filename FAT/FAT32 only: Specifies the files to check for fragmentatio
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/F Fixes errors on the disk.
/V On FAT/FAT32: Displays the full path and name of every file
on the disk.
On NTFS: Displays cleanup messages if any.
/R Locates bad sectors and recovers readable information
(implies /F).
last but not least:
Quote:
Ryan Price's Blog Major chkdsk Bug in Windows 7 RTM
Aug 3, 2009 ... Simply update the chipset drivers, including your controller drivers and your chkdsk /r will complete without BSOD's or system slowdowns. ...
www.bluescreenofdeath.org/?p=94
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08 Aug 2009   #126
Antman

 

In the ZDNet article, the author quotes Sinofsky from the interview where Sinofsky rebuffed the chipset driver claim. The same applies to the AfterDawn article. The PC World article does not cite source - but you can be certain it is, however far removed, extracted from the Sinofsky interview.

Sinofsky rebuffed the chipset driver claim.

There is no MS report, no MS announcment, no MS statement, no MS publication claiming an issue with chipset drivers.

Also /f is not inclusive of /r. /r is inclusive of /f

/F Fixes errors on the disk.
Means - Reads files only

/R Locates bad sectors and recovers readable information (implies /F).
Means - Reads every sector including those with and without files.

With the possible exception of those machines without a page file, there is no bug.
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08 Aug 2009   #127
Snufffed

 

Yes, all in all it really would be rather hard for MS to make a 100% comment on a OS's that is not officially released to the General Public.

The chats with and or about such a problem are actually NULL and Void.
but still nice to chat/speculate about.
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08 Aug 2009   #128
Antman

 

True. I really got on to this story earlier in the week, just before the big buzz. No question, this forum has the most exhaustive examination that I could find. Much credit or Muad Dib for an anlysis that provided the light bulb.

Chipset drivers as a cause has been logically disproven anyway.
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13 Aug 2009   #129
akramh

Windows 7 7264x64(main), 7260x86(secendary), XP SP3 Triple Boot
 
 

just tried this myself, and the problem is present on my 7264 x64 build as well... has this been resolved yet through a patch or something?

here is a screeny:
Bug in Windows 7 RTM-windows-7-7264-chkdsk-bug.jpg

As you can see, it is taking over 800MB of memory as soon as it starts, which isthe available free memory.. this is terrible...


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13 Aug 2009   #130
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by akramh View Post
just tried this myself, and the problem is present on my 7264 x64 build as well... has this been resolved yet through a patch or something?

here is a screeny:
Attachment 22953

As you can see, it is taking over 800MB of memory as soon as it starts, which isthe available free memory.. this is terrible...
Do you have a pagefile on your system? It seems to affect only a select amount of people
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