New Version of Stoned Bootkit Said to Bypass Windows 8 Secure Boot

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  1. Posts : 4,049
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
       #10

    Boot ROMs


    carwiz said:
    ...
    The problem is that it's just a shell-based system. It calls other programs and that's what I think is the weak point. There's supposed to be a special secure partition for the software but that just hints of the same security problems as the MBR. If it can be written, it can be re-written.
    Some special procedure should be required for updating.
    I've never liked the way, it's possible to update the BIOS from inside your OS.

    We may have to go back to Boot ROMs.
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  2. Posts : 1,781
    Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
       #11

    lehnerus2000 said:
    Some special procedure should be required for updating.
    I've never liked the way, it's possible to update the BIOS from inside your OS.
    Couldn't agree more - I've always wondered why they never implemented something as simple as a hardware switch (mountable on the back of the PC case and wired to the motherboard) that locks the BIOS flash chip against any software modifications to it.

    Really just a simple read-only switch you'd have to physically flip before updating the BIOS.

    Since that's rarely ever necessary, why leave the BIOS so vulnerable all the time?

    Why did they never do a simple thing like this? Floppy disks had read-only sliders, and even SD cards still do.
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  3. Posts : 6,618
    W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
       #12

    I realize that the article is not referring to Windows, but if it can be done for XBox, I would think that it could be done for a Windows machine also:

    Xbox-Scene Tutorial: Adding Mod Chip Enable/Disable and BIOS Flash ROM Write Enable/Disable Switches To Your XBox
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  4. Posts : 4,049
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
       #13

    It's unbelievable


    Corazon said:
    lehnerus2000 said:
    Some special procedure should be required for updating.
    I've never liked the way, it's possible to update the BIOS from inside your OS.
    Couldn't agree more - I've always wondered why they never implemented something as simple as a hardware switch (mountable on the back of the PC case and wired to the motherboard) that locks the BIOS flash chip against any software modifications to it.

    Really just a simple read-only switch you'd have to physically flip before updating the BIOS.

    Since that's rarely ever necessary, why leave the BIOS so vulnerable all the time?
    My friend and I have often pondered that.

    Corazon said:
    Why did they never do a simple thing like this? Floppy disks had read-only sliders, and even SD cards still do.
    My friend and I can't believe that USB sticks don't have a "read-only" slider.
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  5. Posts : 293
    win 7 home premium 64 bit
       #14

    Corazon said:
    lehnerus2000 said:
    Some special procedure should be required for updating.
    I've never liked the way, it's possible to update the BIOS from inside your OS.
    Couldn't agree more - I've always wondered why they never implemented something as simple as a hardware switch (mountable on the back of the PC case and wired to the motherboard) that locks the BIOS flash chip against any software modifications to it.

    Really just a simple read-only switch you'd have to physically flip before updating the BIOS.

    Since that's rarely ever necessary, why leave the BIOS so vulnerable all the time?

    Why did they never do a simple thing like this? Floppy disks had read-only sliders, and even SD cards still do.

    Indeed, why is this not the case right now?
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