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Windows 7: Windows 7 - 64-bit to go prime time

13 Aug 2009   #11
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by blackroseMD1 View Post
Honestly, I really hope that Windows 8, or whatever it's called, is 64 bit only. With XP Mode, there is no excuse not to move to 64 bit. It's a great way to keep backwards compatibility, while at the same time getting rid of outdated tech.

The jump from 16 bit to 32 bit didn't seem this difficult. I can only imagine how the jump from 64 bit to 128 bit will be.
The idea od people moving up their hardware (i.e. spending money for newer equipment) is the ones that complain. Honestly a computer (more Desktop here) is a lifetime investment...you have to put more than the price tag into it to maintain the machine and apply upgrades when applicable. Reminds me alot of a car


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13 Aug 2009   #12
blackroseMD1

Windows 10 Tech Preview 9926 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zidane24 View Post
The idea od people moving up their hardware (i.e. spending money for newer equipment) is the ones that complain. Honestly a computer (more Desktop here) is a lifetime investment...you have to put more than the price tag into it to maintain the machine and apply upgrades when applicable. Reminds me alot of a car
lol, the car analogy came to mind right away. Looking at my system right now (Q6600, 8GB RAM, 1.3 TB total HD), I can say that I am somewhat future-proofed. However, with the speed at which tech is advancing, within 2 years I will have to upgrade my mobo to accept more RAM.

Granted, I am an "enthusiast", so I should always be a bit ahead of the game.

I think we should create a new job industry. "Individual Technology Consultant", who will advise everyday people on the upgrades they need in order to keep up with the times.
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13 Aug 2009   #13
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by blackroseMD1 View Post
lol, the car analogy came to mind right away. Looking at my system right now (Q6600, 8GB RAM, 1.3 TB total HD), I can say that I am somewhat future-proofed. However, with the speed at which tech is advancing, within 2 years I will have to upgrade my mobo to accept more RAM.

Granted, I am an "enthusiast", so I should always be a bit ahead of the game.

I think we should create a new job industry. "Individual Technology Consultant", who will advise everyday people on the upgrades they need in order to keep up with the times.
I actually am into that somewhat...I am in some way a Conscierre (probably didn't spell that right...) Computer Consultant for the very wealthy here in back water town Marion. Its good money...and you can honestly tell them anything and they will do it
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14 Aug 2009   #14
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by blackroseMD1 View Post
Honestly, I really hope that Windows 8, or whatever it's called, is 64 bit only. With XP Mode, there is no excuse not to move to 64 bit. It's a great way to keep backwards compatibility, while at the same time getting rid of outdated tech.

The jump from 16 bit to 32 bit didn't seem this difficult. I can only imagine how the jump from 64 bit to 128 bit will be.
That wouldn't be anytime soon! As for simply dumping the 32bit kernel entirely at this time for 8 that will still leave a large number of people hanging by the wayside looking on since older ISP setups and other things will eventually force them to upgrade.

The move from 8bit to 16bit actually took longer while dos was undergoing changes then going from 16bit to 32bit when you look back at what came before Windows. 95 with OSR2 and NT 3.1 saw the first introduction of the 32bit kernel with NT being the 32bit OS at the time all within what 5yrs. time?

Now consider how long 32bit has been inplay from NT 3.1 to 7 some 14+yrs. later at this point. The move to 64bit has been mainly a market orientated holdup in the software market as well as hardware support. Otherwise you would have already seen main 64bit support in abundance there.
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17 Aug 2009   #15
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi all
actually the 64 bit only world is already here.
Windows Server 2008 R2 is ONLY available in 64 bit. There won't be an x-86 version.

Even if your laptop for example only has 1GB its still worth installing W7 X-64 in any case provided the CPU is 64 bit capable.

I suspect that in as little as a year or so even a small "netbook" will have 4GB RAM and a 64 bit capable CPU even though its only likely to be single core.

The main problem for Netbooks is of course how to dissipate heat from such a small footprint. There's nothing technologically difficult thats stopping a 4GB 7 inch screen netbook from being produced apart from heat dissipation.

X-86 OS'es can better be run entirely on a VM which is probably what will happen very quickly now.

Even 2 years ago mention "Virtual Machine" and people would look at you as if you belonged to the highest order of "Geekdom".

Now even people with a much less knowledge of computers are realizing the convenience and power of using Virtual machines.

Cheers
jimbo
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18 Aug 2009   #16
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The problem preventing the use of the Virtual PC 2007 release there was simply not having the Business or Ultimate edition of Vista being sold out instantly when Vista was first released there. You can expect 7 to fly off shelves even faster since the improved Windows 64bit side along with the newer form of VPC will draw the most attention right off.

For something like Netbooks where everything is done online there are no major system requirements where increasing the memory from 1gb upto 4gb would have much effect except to say more memory on this model over another. A laptop with a hard drive would be the thing that benefits from the increase in capacity there.

Temps? Gee? sign up for new phone service and get free Blackberry and chat on Twitter?! You can do that practically from your cell phone these days.
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19 Aug 2009   #17
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi here
I tend to disagree -- I'd love a fully 'specced Netbook with 4GB RAM.

Blackberries I just LOATHE with a passion --symbol of 21st century "Wage slaves". Why on earth should I be tethered into Work email 24 hours a day -- when I'm done for the day I AM DONE. That's what pubs, footie, cinema, clubs, etc etc are for.

However with a nice small netbook I can watch DVD's, play with new software etc etc just like a laptop but witout the weight and size of a traditional laptop.

USB and SSD devices with 100GB or more will soon become available so no more HD necessary.

This should allow more RAM and a better CPU to go into a netbook.

Also with DVD download possibilities one wouldn't even need a DVD/CD device on the netbook - just enough USB slots would be fine.

I'm very happy looking at a 8.9 / 9 / 10 inch screen. Any smaller gets a bit problematic however.

Cheers
jimbo
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20 Aug 2009   #18
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I just saw one article on a 256gb usb flash drive. And as far as 1-1.3tb drives 2tb models are already available making the term "future proof" rather a fruitless term due to how fast hardwares turn over. By the time 8 is out the present drive capacities will look much like what you saw back in 2000 compared to now!
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