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External United states? Where is this place? Can I get freedom fries there?
I was in Afghanistan and couldn't find a Wal-Mart, but there was a Target on every corner.
I am of the opinion that they may have never traveled overseas and suffer from propaganda.
They might be 9th or 10th grade Economic Experts, 14/15 years old.There were even a few who posted that MS should stop selling their products in the EU. Hilarious.
MS is out for expansion and the money. Full stop.
EU, and the rest of the globe, will have w7.
Do you mix Colman's w/water, for your bangers ? :)
I agree it kind of sucks they didn't provide the 64 bit media but lets face it, it isn't very hard to find a copy to download that matches the official MS hashes. The most important thing they gave out was the key which I'm sure works for both versions.
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if (1) they find it easiest and cheapest to just give out the universal 32-bit version, and (2) they're not going to facilitate you getting the 64-bit on a freebie.
If they're main objective is to give you something to "evaluate," they have no real need to give you 64-bit.
Anyway, the keys generally should work regardless of version. As long as you somehow obtain the equivalent 64-bit media, the key should still function the same. I wouldn't stress over it.
I agree it sucks too ! A ten cent optical disk won't exactly break their bank.
Finding a 64 bit copy to DL is hardly a 'problem', but the provided key might be a problem in itself.
The .iso created directly from the freebie 32-bit Ultimate DVD does NOT match Hash-values generated by the:
Wzor or the Zuko .iso files.
These 2 Russian .isos exactly match the MS-provided Hash-values, for the 32-bit Ultimate x86 iso.
Therefore, the 'freebie' handed out on the DVD is -different- somehow, from the official 'norm':
can not install windows 7600 rtm
I suspect the cd boot sector, done deliberately (or unknowledgeably by noobs).
This would insure 100% functionality for installation, etc.
There's other checks to be made, to see whats where, but, 'that's another story'...
Freebie .iso created by ImgBurn, v.2.5.0.0
HashTab v.3.0.0 @2009 beeblebrox.org
Freebie DVD =
CRC32: 40A1B4AA
MD5: 80BA2180008221A5E08F0C45B6D56EFC
SHA-1: 423A9F26AE8E05D15139EB5D7AADC73E35B15791
-----------------------------------------------
WZOR 'Homemade' =
CRC32: 8DD6AE2B
MD5: C7102805815ABB3B6B4796A8CC3FB008
SHA-1: 4FB88ED0E763A0CD82D388E7FDAABD10FC0846D1
WZOR RTM = Zuko RTM:
CRC32: C1C20F76
MD5: D0B8B407E8A3D4B75EE9C10147266B89
SHA-1: 5395DC4B38F7BDB1E005FF414DEEDFDB16DBF610
Zuko RTM =
CRC32: C1C20F76
MD5: D0B8B407E8A3D4B75EE9C10147266B89
SHA-1: 5395DC4B38F7BDB1E005FF414DEEDFDB16DBF610
I'm not stressed about this, I'm just find it annoying as this is not acceptable for my main desktop which currently runs Vista x64 with 8gb ram..can't imagine why anyone would expect people to downgrade just because we got it at a launch event. The SQL server 2005 given out at its launch was not a limited version, the Vista handed out at its launch was not a limited version either so I hope this in not a new direction for Microsoft.
I would disagree about giving us something to "evaluate" as that is what the Beta/RC candidates were for but you may be right over all. I also disagree about cost. All the development costs have already been paid and they will charge us to create and mail the DVD as well as invalidating the x32 copy so there is NO additional cost involved to Microsoft to provide the x64 edition.
I do know that if you want to order a x64 DVD of Vista ultimate it is an online app that asks you to provide the activation key, your address and credit card so as to mail it to you...I would guess that the system is fully automated and that after general release I expect we will find a web page like this for Win7 and it doesn't ask where you got it so unless they specifically exclude all license keys they gave out, the automated system should allow use to pay and receive an x64 DVD but only time will tell.
[quote=chuckr;285191]I'd expect the .iso hash to vary a bit depending on the program and settings creating it. I wouldn't read too much into the different hash when you're making your own .iso.
It would be pretty surprising if MS went to the hassle and expense of making a different system just for their giveaway copies.
Sooner or later someone will try their giveaway key on 64-bit media and can confirm if it works. It's going to be a bit of a waste if you have to pay MS to send out the 64-bit, but we'll see.
A friend of mine called me from Phoenix today to say to get to the event early as they ran out of seats even though he had his confirmation, etc. Was still able to get the Ultimate, 32 bit DVD & goodie bag. Apparently MS is overbooking the event.
1. I wouldn't...
Now that a discrepancy exists, this has to be resolved (to me) as to exactly what that discrepancy is.
2. I would, and do.
I'm not making my own .iso -- I created an iso file of what's on the DVD.
The important two image-files, inside the .isos, match SHA1 numbers, therefore the resultant installs, from either, will be identical.
For the rest of all the files contained in the .isos, they too are all 'identical', all 874.
(See attached, a nice directory listing of everything in there)
If anyone wants an upload of CRC numbers for each and every file in the list, for future reference, I can post that too, for the 32-bit Ultimate version.