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Windows 7: Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for $39.99

02 Aug 2012   #101
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

The RP wouldn't go onto VM Player like the CP did for some reason. But I still have the 4.0.2 version on presently likely the reason for that.

A few times on both the VM on VBox and the previous regular install it simply went straight to the desktop. I suspect we are out of the loop until someone gets a good look at the RTM where MS only wanted to push the Metro without revealing the full story behind what 8 will be seeing! That was to promote the Metro Apps store from the start.

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22 Aug 2012   #102

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

I don't know if this is the place, but I wanted to ask. I haven't used it personally, but I read about fast boot, copy improvements, windows to go, and native iso mount. And what else? What is new (in the operating system features, not the look)?
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22 Aug 2012   #103
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

Fast boot and faster shutdown may be the claims but the faster shutdown time goes back to one particular registry value. HKey_LocalMachine_System_CurrentVersion_Control and modifying the "WaitToKillServices" value by lowering it down from 20000 for XP and Vista =20 seconds, 12000=12seconds for 7, and 8 now seeing that at 5000=5seconds.

The startup may seem faster depending if there is a password, pin code, or image set for the new Lock/Login screen or arriving at the new Start screen first. It still takes a minute for Windows to finish loading every background item.

Native support for mounting iso images is present as well as 8 now seeing it's own dormant av program or remodified MS SE renamed as Windows Defender. Once you install your regular av program that again lies dormant again. That's the plus side of the security seen there with automatic malware detection until your regular protections are installed.

Forget dual booting however. Each OS should be a stand alone since unlike previous versions when selecting the other 8 sees a full restart rather then seeing the alternate version start loading when selected. Another extra step as far as 8 is concerned.

Hyper-X is one other thing for virtual environments and Cloud networking 8 will offer as well as enabling the taskbar on a second monitor without a 3rd party program for the extended desktop. Compatibility is lost for a good deal of older pc game titles especially those OpenGL reliant or seeing a DX9 installer required since DX9 will not go on like it does with 7!
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22 Aug 2012   #104
Microsoft MVP


I installed Classic Shell to get the Win7-style Start Menu and can now function better on a Win8 desktop.

Lack of right-clickable "Computer" menu choice on Start Menu Solved thanks to SIW2 here.
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22 Aug 2012   #105

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64

start screen isn't much use, frankly.

I have it on the start menu.
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22 Aug 2012   #106
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

The right click option for any of the addons isn't there to begin with! This is one reason for simply hating the need for one and why not seeing any standard desktop setup option leaves the desktop user hanging!

The limited number of Control Panel items is in the right click menu where the Start screen pops up from! Otherwise you have dig and dig and dig through the Crawler bar Settings screens or have the CP displayed in the Windows Explorer navigation pane which I keep there on 7 anyways.

The LiberKey being another addon program offers more in that for CP items then the lame popup menu!
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23 Aug 2012   #107

Windows & Pro 64bit
Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro

Sounds like a good deal so that raises some suspicions.
However I would imagine that this "wonderful" offer is, as with many MS offers not available to everybody. We in the antipodes always seem to be the "poor relations" when it comes to our treatment by MS.
Notice no download links are given nor any site names for download.
Never mind, I guess I will have to do what I always do.......wait and see.
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23 Aug 2012   #108

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64

I think you will get the offer.
MS are having to work hard to shift this thing.
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23 Aug 2012   #109

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
start screen isn't much use, frankly.

I have it on the start menu.
Hi there
that's what I thought originally - but if you re-arrange your work it actually makes sense.
(Note -- we still need some apps to provide "De-Uglification" and customisation of the tiles and the background start screen but within the current limitations you can still make the start screen useful).

Try reading through these threads -- I think I started something here.

Who really NEEDS desktop anymore -- even omn a PC

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23 Aug 2012   #110

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64


As I pointed out on that thread - all you are doing is making a folder full of shortcuts. That folder opens first - so if you simply want to launch a program, click on it there.

That was one of the first things I did , when I first saw a start screen - way back with the early releases.

Because the start screen insisted on opening first - may as well dump the useless metro stuff from it and put some of your own shortcuts in.

Now I do not need that inconvenience.

I boot directly to the desktop - the start screen does not pop up first, getting in the way. It never pops up at all.

I can launch my programs from desktop shortcut, taskbar pin - or , more likely - use the computer flyout on the start menu - to do what I want to do.

I must have the computer flyout menu, and recent items flyout menu - the best , neatest, most efficient way is on the start menu.

The start menu is by far the best and most efficient method for a desktop. PERIOD.

MS are trying to force the start screen on the hapless users as part of their monetarization strategy.

Let me translate that for you - they are trying to squeeze more money out of the unsuspecting users.
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