Windows 8 is a one way street for consumer PC users

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  1.    #10

    I just re-read the story and see nothing about "UEFI locking." Nor have I heard about it until now. What have I missed?

    Can you please provide a source for this or explain it further as you understand it?

    I do remember that BIOS locks were attempted for awhile by OEM's until judges smacked them down hard for trying to tell owners how they could use their own property. Haven't heard of a locked BIOS in several years now.
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  2. Posts : 12,177
    Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
       #11

    Simple, if customers want W7 OEMs will sell it to them. The OEM may make statements about not changing the OS but when it comes to sales they will deliver what the customer wants.
    UEFI doesn't lock out changing an OS. If the OEMs put something in there that does, there will be modded UEFIs.
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  3. Posts : 289
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #12

    From the article linked at the beginning:

    That could be a bigger problem that it used to be. All vendors Windows 8 PC now come with Microsoft's UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) Secure Boot. This "security" system makes it much harder to boot Linux, or any other operating system for that matter, on a Windows 8 PC.
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  4. Posts : 349
    MS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
       #13

    It basically sounds like Microsoft is trying to enforce users to use Windows 8 because they know they messed up.
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  5.    #14

    We shouldn't hate Microsoft too much, every company makes mistakes, and they have produced great operating systems and products in the past: Windows 7 and Windows XP for example.
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  6.    #15

    I don't read any hatred toward MS in the WIn8 comments, more a genuine concern that they're abandoning too fast a wildly popular 3 year old OS.

    Beside we do as much here for MS as their own forums do, if not more.


    mlevy said:
    From the article linked at the beginning:

    That could be a bigger problem that it used to be. All vendors Windows 8 PC now come with Microsoft's UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) Secure Boot. This "security" system makes it much harder to boot Linux, or any other operating system for that matter, on a Windows 8 PC.
    I haven't heard yet that UEFI can lock out anything. Here's how it works with 7:
    UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 7 with - Windows 7 Forums

    UEFI is routinely turned off if undesired by enabling Legacy BIOS, removing EFI boot disk from BIOS Boot order, then wiping the HD with Diskpart Clean Command or Convert GPT Disk to MBR Disk - Windows 7 Forums
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       #16

    Messy


    What a friggin' mess. This should play out in 2013. Sales figures will be the determing factor.
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  8.    #17

    gregrocker said:

    Beside we do as much here for MS as their own forums do, if not more.
    I agree, there is much greater support on this forum, also the forum doesn't aim to sell any products or promote a particular product; Microsoft forums may be clouded by the aim to make a profit.
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  9. Posts : 427
    Windows 7/64 HPremium.
       #18

    Thanks Brink, I have a friend asking if she should buy a lappy with 8 or 7. This will convince her to stay with 7 (although I will have to ask for her - she is so timid with sales people.)
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  10.    #19

    x BlueRobot said:
    gregrocker said:

    Beside we do as much here for MS as their own forums do, if not more.
    I agree, there is much greater support on this forum, also the forum doesn't aim to sell any products or promote a particular product; Microsoft forums may be clouded by the aim to make a profit.
    MS Answers (if that's still its name) is getting better after struggling to adjust to more user interactivity and a realistic reputation system which they recognize was built-in better here. At 2012 MVP Summit I met their new VP who was head of Oprah's web empire and has brought them much spirit and progress.

    However they don't have our tutorial database (just KB's) and haven't developed nearly as many of the workarounds and fixes that have come out of 7F even though they have MS engineers to call upon.
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