More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

gregrocker said:

This may be true for browsing on an Ipad, but for real productive work like that which drives the world economy and similar to what I'm doing now here answering a dozen threads in an internet cafe in Berlin, it takes longer and interrupts the process to reach up and poke the screen.

The interruption is similar to having the Wall of Playskool buttons slam down on your work in place of the small unobtrusive Start menu popup that a billion people grew up with to use productively, and what was perfected in XP and Windows 7.

This is what MS tossed to the wind in Wind Ate.

Yes Greg but like I said how come I am not having problems then with my machines - seriously I wouldn't know I was running 8 if I hadn't upgraded my 7 to it and use the 7 type start menu.

This thread is a bit like an endless loop to me I cannot see what fuss is all about - suppose that makes me a somewhat a bit short of grey matter or something.

Dallas 7 said:

If they want to see PC sales jump instead of drop, all they need is to start reproducing W7 with a good SP2 for PCs, while W8 handles the mobile market. That would jump start sales.

Put a PC OS on PCs, and a mobile OS on mobile units. Duhhhh. Cmon M$ wake up.

Still keeping desktop features alive as well as a desktop gui would have been what would make the most sense producing a desktop edition of 8 at least and not gearing everything for tablet. One would have hoped MS would have followed suit after the 7 success story to continue along those lines with even more improvements in the next desktop? version. "Har... Matey! Tabletitis Blarney set in. MS be lost in some mobile scuffle somewho!"

Reaper351c said:

Microsoft should have never used windows 8 on a computer without touch screen capabilities its way better suited to tablets and phones

It's not simply touch & swipe but a constained OS directed at the Tablet platform. Seeing some features removed would have still been an option for MS to consider. But when you look at the gui slammed in people faces without choices you can easily see what 8 was intended for. 7 also has touchscreen support present as well but an option!

Surface with Windows RT(proprietaty) and W8 for other non MS tablets is the game play there. 8.1 simply makes the tablet look more like the familiar desktop to an extent while still on the mobile side of life.

Now what could have proven itself more of a success 8 story would have been seeing a desktop edition on top of the updated under the hood improvements as far as security and the actual working form of the MS Securiy Essentlal(renamed to Windows Defender for 8) put into a fully working what comes after 7 OS. MS was totally gearing everything however to promote Surface and options to see a newer Windows put on other tablets having abandoned the desktop by looking the other way.

I think that Microsoft needs to figure out that "abandoning" desktop OSs isn't a way to get them into the handheld mobile market.

That's what doesn't make any sense to me, unless they're actually trying to kill off the PC, which also doesn't really make much sense.

They are trying to kill off the first word

personal computer.

gregrocker said:

The issue to me John is it's not a worthy successor to Win7. And since it's not something they think they need to correct it's a worse situation than Vista.

It was Vista's debacle debut that forced important changes developed for Win7 to conserve resources, making the Black Viper unnecessary.

This involves a completely misguided attempt to rewrite their business plan to rent apps and eventually the OS like the Ipad, and with apps no one would buy or wants.

Most importantly no one should have to modify an OS to make it tolerable to work the way in which a billion users came to rely upon MS for an OS. We already have Win7.

Well I might as well go ahead and remove what I have done then What I do not understand is what the fuss is about as the 8 upgrade with the 7 start up menus work as my 7 machines do and to all intents and purposes is 7 in anything I use them for and is much faster. My only irritation is that they have changed slightly the way that msconfig works. But perhaps I am just that bit too thick to see what the problem is and if it is around the Metro and those panels and touch screens etc then I don't use any of it just the machines as normal.

Anyhow I still have three machines running 7 and the drives I cloned from with 7 on them I am past all this stuff re some character named Balmer and the mess that Microsoft has got itself into in fact I find it all a bit depressing and quite frankly boring to the Nth degree.

Personally, I still cannot grasp the point in buying a new OS, then applying 3rd party fixes in order to make it look like what you already have.

essenbe said:

Personally, I still cannot grasp the point in buying a new OS, then applying 3rd party fixes in order to make it look like what you already have.

Well I only did it to try Steve and I carried over my 7 settings - it was only an experiment really but as it goes looks like I did the wrong ting eh?

My comment was not directed at you, John. It was just a general comment because it seems that's what most people are doing. If you are satisfied with Windows 8, by all means use it. I was just making a general comment.