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Huh - well everyone & everything has a label these days. Used to be we were just users.
Looking at this from a software support angle I see 8 as something of, well future job security. Rounding off some data to date about 70% of callers are on w7. There's a bunch still migrating from XP to 7. Got a few on Vista. None of these (business class - type) "users or companys" are in a hurry to migrate to 8.
Personaly I think metro is a turd without a touch screen.
Maybe I'm just upset my team lost last Sunday.
Maybe I find MS's comercials trying to sell 8 insulting & annoying. Funny how when 8 is up and running irl there's no idiots jumping running dancing around with acrobatic tablet devices.
Windows 8 start screen gets uglier every time I see it. I don't like even seeing screenshots of it. I tried it through each release and still hated it. The main problem being the full screen aspect of it instead of how damn ugly it was/is. Of course all that has been said many times before, but it's still fun to say it.
Anyway... I reject windows 8 too and am an enthusiast so... the number could be correct as everybody I've shown it to online has too.
I am Enthusist as well but I would only prefer this in a Tablet or The way my Phone is now as my Main Os I couldn't tolerate it as much because I am using a different platform for my Device that im barley getting around to and currently my wife is cursing the day that phone she has was bought
I certainly had my bad comments but these were in fact before i actually used this interface as of now im still sticking with 7
But for a Tablet i find it pretty bad ass for the most part because those are just simplified toys when it comes to real task that is where they fail and it's the truth
Last edited by Solarstarshines; 17 Jan 2013 at 18:21.
But there's a reason why people are complaining - it's because no one can do his job in time, and because of business, products are just released in current state, whatever it is, 90% or 10%, but it's never 100%, so we always have to wait few years to get tons of updates, and even after updates there are enough bad things to complain about. And i will use these products, while i can get them for free and legal, but i will never ever ever buy them, cause i dont agree with the way these products are going.
I'm an Enthusiast but I wouldn't exactly say I have rejected Windows 8. I'd welcome it on a tablet but I'm in no hurry to use it on my desktop or laptop. The big thing that bugs me about Metro other than it being locked into a full screen, is it being restricted to just one monitor. Is it really that hard, in this day and age, to have it so you can run more than one Metro screen at a time? And before anybody mentions it, metro snap is not a usable option for me. I have two 19 inch 4:3 1280x1024 monitors but apparently they are not wide enough for snap to work.
I was seriously considering installing windows 8 but then I found it wouldn't run Popcap's Bejeweled 3.. That was the end for me.. No windows 8.
Well, errr.. actually.. I was never really going to install it... Even though I managed to make it look and feel like Windows 7 for the most part, no Aero glass; Leaving the flat ugly look was enough to keep me away...
It remains one of the few things I haven't downloaded through my technet subscription...
Hi there
People seem to have very short memories -- Cast your mind back to the introduction of XP -- people absolutely HATED it at first - but it went on to become the longest running OS in History ever - even including the veritible IBM Mainframe OS - MVS 3.8 (which believe it or not you can run totally via the Hercules emulator even on a small laptop -- power in modern machines would swamp those the old Mainframes !!!) -- you had huge banks of diskdrives (3330's I'believe which only had 13030 bytes per platter !!!). ibm 3330 - Google Search
Vista was only bad because the hardware wasn't up to it when it was released -- if you run it now on a machine it actually isn't too bad - and remember W7 was built basically out of the experiences with Vista.
W7 was probably the only OS that Ms has introduced that got a good reception from the start probably people just wanted rid of the poorly performing VISTA..
W8 though is a different animal entirely --it has to handle things like smart phones and tablets which rely heavily on touch screens and don't need windowed apps or multi - monitors so Ms was in a bit of a hardplace here -- press on with a load of different OS'es or try and make a common interface so a user would have roughly the same experience whether they are using a phone, a tablet or a computer --and in fact the W8 interface isn't a lot different from Android either so anybody using Windows for the FIRST TIME who has also used any sort of smart phone would be quite familiar with the interface.
Obviously a One size fits all won't please everybody -- but I can see the logic of not having to maintain and develop several totally different lines of OS.
W8 has some good features in it, and as I said before you can't relate W8 stats to W7's --for starters hardware needs less upgrading these days than before --even a low end laptop probably has more CPU power in it than the average user (casual home "Mom & Pop" type of thing with some kids probably surfing or "Face-booking" etc) really needs.
Not only that - people are buying different devices like tablets and smart phones instead of full blown PC's so the License issues of W8 are counted up differently - again be careful of stats between W7 and W8.
For serious desktop user -especially with large external monitors the new metro GUI is an abomination - but it's relatively simple to get into the "Classic desktop" and there are a load of FREE 3rd party add-ons which make the W8 desktop identical to W7 -and even bring back the classic menu.
Sometimes I go DAYS without using a computer -- I can do a lot of casual stuff like email, web surfing, travel booking etc all on a smart pghone these days --even replying to these Forums at times from a smart phone. I think most people these days don't need to use their PC's as often as they used to --and for some a tablet is really all they need -- and I can say that unlike a desktop computer using W7 on a tablet is a HORRIBLE experience -- the touch is Iffy and using the classic menu is a real pain whereas on W8 just slide across like a phone and you are into your application.
Where Ms went totally bonkers is in W2012 server -- although you can run it with only a basic GUI or even in command line it is possible to "enable Desktop experience" which then starts up like W8 the full metro screen -- now if anybody has ever in their entire lives ever used a server they will realize how totally idiotic having metro interface on it is.
I do expect W8 (or its successor) to make a few more concessions to desktop power users --we'll have to wait and see -- but it IS usable and for a lot of people quite OK.
So just wait until later when we see more Windows 8 phones (after a lot of initial criticism --the W7 phones were frankly Terrible and you wouldn't even want to be seen with the handsets --definitely hugely uncool).
However the new W8 ones are getting some very good reviews indeed, and wait for the MS SURFACE PRO tablet --to say nothing of machines like the HP envy set of computers where the screen can be removed completely and it acts as a very nice W8 conveniently portable tablet.
Cheers
jimbo