More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

Night Hawk said:

The EU is actually now up in arms over MS failing to live upto their 2009 promise of keeping a browser options list in 7 for the EU distributions. The EU wants to level fines against MS for that one! EU fines Microsoft $US732m over browser ballot debacle - new york times, opera software, Microsoft, european union, european commission, Windows, legal, software, operating systems - Computerworld

It wouldn't be the first time they have tried to slam dunk MS however for any grievances with the software giant. EU hands down record $1.35 billion fine against Microsoft

Back in the late 90s they were fined a $1mil a day for not allowing competitors to offer browsers in Windows with MS having made sure IE was default. For a giant like MS however that is only a drop in the bucket based on their revenues!

And before I forget while keeping on the main topic, Will 90 percent of users always hate Windows 8?

Certainly the need to find a 3rd party app like Classic Shell for something people already expect to find in each version is the nasty idea someone at MS had for seeing 8 desktops look the same as the new tablet series while the RT gui was designed for tablet. The writer brings up a reference regarding "usability" when making the comparisons between the types of users. Experts, willing adopters(or willing to learn), and then the mainstream 90% novice users.

I just don't get this fine at all , I live in England and the EU are a bunch of -----well you get my point , anyone who has a computer / laptop with windows 7 on and and DOESN'T know their are other browsers out there.... well how can they not know , do they live on the moon? The EU just bully company's and governments and a total waste of tax payers money . When you buy a android phone you get the stock browser and it's up you if you feel like you want to try out other browsers available why is this any different? When I got my laptop 2 years ago it had that browser choice thinggie on it and I thought 'what is the point of this ?' of coarse I know there are other browsers out there and then proceeded to take it off my laptop because it was a waste of desktop space.

whs said:

No problem if they fix the mess. But as long as they keep their playmobile UI, I'll stay away from it. There are better options.

whs my I use your new work. I like it. (playmobile)

SIW2 said:

I did it another way. Mount your image from install.wim - put in the updates with dism. Make other adjustments as you like - registry entries.etc.

There have been over 500 updates released - only about 130 needed.

Works well for repair install also.

Might do a tutorial if there is enough interest.

Oh I think there will be enouth interest.

Layback Bear said:

SIW2 said:

I did it another way. Mount your image from install.wim - put in the updates with dism. Make other adjustments as you like - registry entries.etc.

There have been over 500 updates released - only about 130 needed.

Works well for repair install also.

Might do a tutorial if there is enough interest.

Oh I think there will be enouth interest.

I agree!

SIW2 said:

There are more like 3 dozen start menus available.

I can only think of about a half a dozen "off of the top of my head".
I wasn't including OEM versions in that number either.

I did say "... at least ...". :)

SIW2 said:

No registry hacks - MS removed some of the code. Nikolay has great way to alleviate much of the suffering from the disease.

He puts back the code with a couple of very small .dll files. No services , no additional executables running.

His is only 3 bucks for 2 pc license.

StartIsBack - real start menu in Windows 8

I read something in the last couple of weeks about restoring the Start Menu.
That must be what I was thinking of. :)

SIW2 said:

Am having a go at making batch file to make your own 7sp2 install media.

You will neeed an install dvd - and you need to d/l the updates ( I will explain where from and which ones - it is pretty easy .

Just run the batch as admin and it does the job for you. It takes a while putting the updates in - then it will make the iso. You can go away for lunch and let is do it's thing.

Thanks for that. :)

Layback Bear said:

whs said:

No problem if they fix the mess. But as long as they keep their playmobile UI, I'll stay away from it. There are better options.

whs my I use your new work. I like it. (playmobile)

Of course you can use it. But it was not my invention. SIW2 introduced the word.

SIW2 said:

It is quite funny over at eight forums. It is a bit like being the only sober one in the pub.

Small bunch over there make a lot of noise, but can't talk any sense.

Wolfgang knows what I mean.

If you post anything less than fawning praise, prepared to be shouted at by rabid fanboys.

Generally they don't even read what you actually post.

lehnerus2000 said:

SIW2 said:

It is quite funny over at eight forums. It is a bit like being the only sober one in the pub.

Small bunch over there make a lot of noise, but can't talk any sense.

Wolfgang knows what I mean.

If you post anything less than fawning praise, prepared to be shouted at by rabid fanboys.

Generally they don't even read what you actually post.

Yeah right, the fanboys make noises for a whole army, but they are only a few. The majority of the eightforum members are still sane but most of them stay out of the discussion. It is too hyper.

Gosh..... now you all have me wanting to go over there and take a peek! Seem to remember going once when it first opened but not sure.Did try the Beta of 8 or whatever version it was so maybe ....? Haven't really had a desire to go back if so. My tolerance for trolls and troll-like behavior is pretty small though so maybe its best I just take your alls word on it :)