More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

It is quite funny on 8 forums.

Personally, I am fascinated watching this unfold.

There are a few on 8 forums who get very upset because they like the little squares and so on.

It is not their fault, MS doesn't want to make it obvious to everyone - it would be a lot less effective if the users knew what they were doing.

I suppose more people will catch on at some stage.

A couple of the extreme ones have been banned.

Hopefully there won't be a repeat of that kind of thing.

Much more pleasant atmosphere here.

I think quite a lot of them will.

You are right about other os.

If something else was generally easily available - Linux on oem machines for example, then a reasonable number would go for that.

Because those are not generally available, MS will be able to migrate most users to phone style os on various size devices.

whs said:

The big question is whether the users will put up with that. I am preparing myself for the 'after Windows' times.

When we showed up at MVP Summit 2011 and were told our feedback wasn't wanted on Win8, it gave me a sick feeling. Now that the absolute worst has happened those still with a passion for MS's epic achievement in Win7 should speak out to avert total disaster.

I am typing this from a laptop in Office Depot where I've started spending time studying the most amazing thing: No one is trying the new PC's at all. Not here, not across town, not across the country. They may walk up and take a poke at the Win8 screen but when it doesn't react to touch and they can't find a Start button, they walk away. I am always the only one trying the various PC's, looking in vain for the new touchscreens which surely would have come out by now if Win8 was meant for desktops.

The fact is Win8 offers zero desktop experience. If you configure it to be productive for what the great mass of office workers, writers, even home users want a laptop or a desktop for, then you've added a Start button and maybe gadgets back in....and you have Win7 with a little bit of Explorer improvement.

So Win8 should have never been on these PC's and needs to come off of them now, so MS doesn't through its over-reaction to Ipad trigger the very fear that existed in the back of their minds: death of desktop. The desktop will never die as long as users need a productive, easily intuitive desktop experience to get work done. So take Win8 off of desktops now and return the rightful OS to them, the best OS ever created, which doesn't show a day of age yet.

Put the germane improvements into Win7 SP2 and carry on with the booming 7 sales, especially now that business has weighed the two OS's and made its decision to move 100% full steam into Win7. Any idea that you're going to phase out Win7 now is beyond ludicrous, it's market suicide. If business isn't the market speaking, I dont' know what is.

Then introduce the new touch screens like Surface and other entries starting to trickle out with the OS that complements them, selling the two OS's side-by-side for what they are rightly intended. No more trying to force users who don't want unintuitive desktops, no matter how slick of a social media GUI presented in videos. Users would need months of training to adapt to that. Give them what works now.

Finally please realize what was rudely skipped over and particularly offends us here at the top tech forums on the web because we support Win7: You created the best OS ever and possibly the greatest achievement in tech history, Windows 7.

Greg,

were told our feedback wasn't wanted on Win8

Why would MS care what the MVP's think.

selling the two OS's side-by-side

MS don't want to do that.

They want to move their existing users to a phone style os.

It is better for MS.

They don't want to give the users a choice of a separate desktop os.

Si, what I'm getting at is that with business now being forced to migrate from XP and choosing Win7 almost unanimously, it would be going so head-on against the market to try to phase out Win7 that it would be economic suicide. In fact the market would correct it if it requires replacing the entire corporate hierarchy. Stockholders don't join in suicide pacts. I think it is that dire.

Converging you also have the Win8 sales which are dead in the water. The big box stores are seeing no Win8 PC sales except online and those unsatisfied customers are returning them to the stores. They want Win7.

Here would have been a way out: to easily upgrade Win8 to Win7. But they've been stubborn about even that. So they are faced with ruin unless they relent, put Win7 on desktops and laptops with an SP2 soon, Win8 on touchscreens, and/or give users a choice at the bare minimum.

Business can stay with 7 for a while - it will be supported , of course - MS can't pull support - that really would be suicide.

They are going for the consumer.

MS have monetised business well. Now they are monetising the consumer.

you also have the Win8 sales which are dead in the water

8 sales would be even worse if something else was generally available.

MS are prepared to subsidise oem's, and wait for the users to cave.

It is starting to happen a little. Users cannot hang on forever - and if the prices come down enough - they will go for it.

That is the plan.

MS can do that because they have monopoly power.