More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

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  1. Posts : 50
    2000Pro,XP SP3 x86..W7 on next build
       #970

    [QUOTE=Night Hawk;2384551][QUOTE=Dallas 7;2384533]
    mjf said:
    The 2-3gb rec for the 64bit as well as 32bit is already reached with the 3-4gb typical PC and 6gb is common for the 64bit preinstalls.
    Has Physical Address Extension been mentioned yet?
    Using the /PAE switch in 32 bit systems from 2000Pro to W7 as allowed legacy hardware/software users to
    go to 8GiB and arrange to their needs, though sometimes I'll use ram above 3.4 gigs for on-board hardware or ramdisks for swap and cache,etc. 2000 server can natively use 16gig. Though I noticed a server thread elsewhere.
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  2.    #971

    If they are smart they will fall back to Win7 and celebrate the best OS ever for Desktop experience, while on a parallel track reintroducing Win8 as a touchscreen/tablet OS.

    There is something jarring about business moving almost 100% from XP into Win7 yet MS pretending its being phased out and superceded by Win8. That bluster was understandable when they were trying to scare business into WIn8. But the productive business world voted for the desktop and Win7.

    Add that to the consumer's tepid reaction to Win8 and you have the perfect opportunity for MS to finally recognize that with Win7 they created the best OS ever.

    If they continue to refuse to acknowledge their aero-headed stepchild, we'll continue to provide it's support and advocacy.
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  3. Posts : 16,155
    7 X64
       #972

    That's a good one.

    Is it a political cartoon - chancellor of the exchequer perhaps?


    Jimbo
    Hi there
    what about this one - it's obviously enjoying itself.


    https://www.sevenforums.com/attachmen...8-bullshop.png
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  4. Posts : 16,155
    7 X64
       #973

    Nice summary.

    Dallas 7 said:

    For the most part there's probably three kinds of W8 desktop/laptop buyers out there,

    those who don't know what they're getting into,

    those who just need to buy something but can't afford the fruit company,

    and those who are standing in the return lines at Best Buy.
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  5. Posts : 16,155
    7 X64
       #974

    There is a huge market for portables.

    Makes sense for them to release an os for that. It appears to be ok for that.

    There is also a huge existing user base for windows.

    MS decided to force metro on them as well.

    The aim for MS is clear . Metro ( most obviously the start screen ) is the way they push their services/products on the hapless user.

    It is not just about selling apps. It is about their entire online /cloud services subscription plans, and the opportunity to push Bing, Xbox etc.

    I think they misjudged the level of public resistance.

    What they are now doing is hastening the decline in pcs , where they have dominance, leaving themselves fighting for 3rd place in tablets/phones.

    In one sentence:

    MS are monetising the consumer.


    mjf said:
    What interests me is that given that MS is a multi $B corporation what was the strategic thinking in betting the farm on W8? Of course I'll never know.
    My guess: jump on the iwhatever/tablet bandwagon and sell online apps. You can actually have your cake and eat it to.
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  6. Posts : 16,155
    7 X64
       #975

    Marie Antoinette "Let them eat cake"

    She ended up on the guillotine.


    (that quote may be misattributed - but it is has symbolic significance )

    Dallas 7 said:
    mjf said:
    What interests me is that given that MS is a multi $B corporation what was the strategic thinking in betting the farm on W8? Of course I'll never know.
    My guess: jump on the iwhatever/tablet bandwagon and sell online apps. You can actually have your cake and eat it to.

    Yup. But what they're trying to feed desktop users isn't exactly cake. LOL
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    win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
       #976
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  8. Posts : 330
    Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
       #977

    With desktops and laptops, windows has the lock down when it comes to OS. You can even put windows on a mc if you'd like, so MS has a strangle hold on that market.

    The tablet/handheld world not so much. With Apple, Sansung, google and even kindle and nook, that market has already grown past the point of you either have "windows or some other OS" so I'm not surprised. Now, if they would have had their tablets/touch units released and advertised the same year as Ipad 1 they would probably be in a better place market wise, but I'd imagine more and more companies will start to sell their brand of touch pads, as it is going to be like cells phones in the early to mid 2000's and thus, water down this market more and more.
    Last edited by Berkey; 02 May 2013 at 13:55.
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  9. Posts : 8,375
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
       #978

    bberkey1 said:
    With desktops and laptops, windows has the lock down when it comes to OS. You can even put windows on a mc if you'd like, so MS has a strangle hold on that market.

    The tablet/handheld world not so much. With Apple, Sansung, google and even kindle and nook, that market has already grown past the point of you either have "windows or some other OS" so I'm not surprised. Now, if they would have had their tablets/touch units released and advertised the same year as Ipad 1 they would probably be in a better place market wise, but I'd imagine more and more companies will start to sell their brand of touch pads, as it is going to be like cells phones in the early to mid 2000's and thus, water down this market more and more.
    MS has had tablet versions all along being the embedded form of OS however and very limited with what you could do with the CE or Compact Editions of XP, Vista, CE 6.0 for 7, and now RT/8. The push to make the desktop look the same as the Surface now however is since they are now producing their own Tablets rather then simply offering an embedded form of Windows on someone else's!

    Now for the Fruit Company, Googlatorium, and whoever Kindle or not IPads became a fad where everyone had to have the latest being a one time buy this year and then the next and simply download the apps you want. They become more like novelty items for people ion the go for fast texting and jibberish while not being suited for the serious user in any form.

    And where does that lead everyone back to eventually? The actual need for a newer updated "desktop" OS not just the desktop edition of a tablet OS! The reason 7 was an instant success is quite simple. MS had to make it work right from the start after Vista got a bad rep being the misunderstood OS there!

    MS pressured the OEMs to have driver support available for 7 like never seen before where you waited a year for select Vista drivers! With 8 when looking around you won't find 8 only drivers but instead of seeing Vista/7 they now list 7/8 drivers and updates still using 7 drivers!
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  10. Posts : 172
    Windows 10 (64 bit)
    Thread Starter
       #979

    Reports have suggested that Microsoft may add a boot to desktop option and a Start button. But those features have yet to show up in any builds. And one report says the Start button would simply lead users to the Start screen rather than offer a traditional Start menu.
    Windows 8.1 reportedly updates apps silently | Microsoft - CNET News
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