More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

Summary: There are plenty of legitimate concerns about the Windows 8 interface. But if you think the removal of the Start menu is the root cause of those problems, you're mistaken. See for yourself.

Sorry, but bringing back the Start menu won't help Windows 8 | ZDNet

Ed Bott must be spinning wildly in that article.

His W7 search results don't match my results.

Sure my Start Menu is taller than his, but I get more results in the categories that we have in common.

SSo , he spects me to change settings I have no need to mess with in Windows 7 just to make the experience more comfortable? CMON!!!!!!!!!! IS HE NUTS? Why in hell I need to do that if Windows 7 has all the shortcuts I need, at the touch of one click... I DON'T need to pin control panel just because IS ALREADY THERE!...

What he needs is to be in the shoes of any of those costumers that are TIRED of battling around with Windows 8 and it's "improvements"... There is no excuse, Windows 8 is the biggest fail they ever had... heck, I can even guarantee is worse than Windows Vista... and know why? Because Vista was unable to run on hardware that could run Windows XP perfectly (512 MB RAM? You serious?) and that was AGAIN a BIG fail in marketing, instead of admiting that Vista could run fluidly on systems that had 1 GB or more of RAM (and I'm not talking about CPU speed and VGA requirements, in that time those were just ridiculous)... Windows 8 is worse becaue the interface is the problem, complcated, hidden stuff, dammed things for touch screens, Modern UI for desktops (really? REALLY?) instead of keeping the weel known and safe proofing experience... even Mac does better integrating it's devices...

Admit it already MS... W8 is a big fail, and it will continue to fail until you realize that a PC and laptops ARE NOT the same as a Tablet or Smartphones, and want it or not, you need a different aproach for each device, PERIOD!

It is a bit more then just the Start orb and menu alone while that is a centralized point you work out from no longer seen in W8. From the Start menu, Windows Explorer if set to show at the bottom of any explorer window, or pinning the CP icon to the taskbar you can always get to everything in the Control Panel. In 8 instead you have to find the hidden right click menu right where the Start screen popup appears covering up that little tid bit. The CP link is hdden away in the menu there. The Crawler Toolbar that appears on the right side of the screen only reveals a limited number in the Apps and Settings but no Control Panel access. You are being bounced around looking for this or that hidden in this or that adding extra steps to each task! And now for the latest news about 8 continuing to fail regardless here's.... Windows 8 continues to fail | ZDNet

Night Hawk said:

It is a bit more then just the Start orb and menu alone while that is a centralized point you work out from no longer seen in W8. From the Start menu, Windows Explorer if set to show at the bottom of any explorer window, or pinning the CP icon to the taskbar you can always get to everything in the Control Panel. In 8 instead you have to find the hidden right click menu right where the Start screen popup appears covering up that little tid bit. The CP link is hdden away in the menu there. The Crawler Toolbar that appears on the right side of the screen only reveals a limited number in the Apps and Settings but no Control Panel access. You are being bounced around looking for this or that hidden in this or that adding extra steps to each task!
And now for the latest news about 8 continuing to fail regardless here's.... Windows 8 continues to fail | ZDNet

Interesting stats Night Hawk. If M$ hadn't sold their "claimed" 100 million W8 licenses, people might get the wrong impression with 8 still running sooo far behind the lowly Vista!

The problems with Windows 8 weren’t caused by the removal of the Start menu. All of the things you can do with the Start menu in Windows 7 can be accomplished using the new interface.

Sorry, but bringing back the Start menu won't help Windows 8 | ZDNet

Sorry Ed but that "new interface" IS the problem.
M$ unappologetically and arrogantly shortchanged their desktop users with a touchscreen oriented interface designed specifically for tablets and phones.

I believe you're right about one thing Ed, it'd take more than just a start button or menu to fix W8.
The fix is, remove it from desktops and put it where it belongs, on tablets and phones.
Then give desktop PCs an interface designed for desktops!

SIW2 said:

Ed is a huge windows supporter. What do you expect his articles to say?

Apparently he wrote several articles critical of Vista (according to people commenting on his W7 and W8 articles).
I never installed Vista and as a result I didn't read those articles.

I never used Vista because of all the bad reports by users.
Vista did do one great thing. It opened the door for Windows 7. Many good things from Vista went into Window7. Microsoft picked up the ball and ran with it and now we have a great system, Windows 7.

I never used Vista because of all the bad reports by users.

Too many people went by the hearsy regarding Vista. But after SP1, Vista was a great system. My wife is still running with Vista on 2 laptops and loves it.

Watch this short video - you may find yourself in the crowd, LOL.

Project Mojave - Windows Vista Perception - YouTube