More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

mjf said:

Night Hawk said:

No one said anything about shareholders since they do not run things but simply provide the mula for investment. They expect the company to perform in that direction and make them the big $$$$...!!!

There generally are annual general meetings where shareholders do have a say. Then I hold shares in some coys and have never attended an annual general meeting. Of course the solitary investor has no clout at these meetings.
I would think the large financial investment institutions who invest on behalf of multiple shareholders have some clout.
What staggers me is the increase in MS share price and dividends
MSFT Historical Prices | Microsoft Corporation Stock - Yahoo!7 Finance

I think you will find that their input is rather limited towards business concerns and not the end product as far as development. If MS says "we can work out a great tablet OS!" the investors will turn around and say "make it sell!" They won't be telling MS just what goes into the next version of whatever. Plus MS has the excuse "we are simply following the market!" without emphasizing "mobile" apparently.

MS came out with the first 64bit OS which saw little or no support namely XP Pro x64 back in 2005. Yet look how many run the 64bit 7 presently. It still could be to some extent while not going about it quite the right way to still meet the desktop needs MS is working up a new branch for the mobile. Unfortunately they slammed dunked it on the average user without options which has been the main gripe from the get go!

Beware of upgrading to 8!! I did this after and thankfully cloning my 7 SSD to another to try it only to find that the version was made in the UK and apparently M$ in their infinite wisdom decided not to put WMP on the European and some other regions 8 Pro upgrade so I am now left with either trying to download the WMP - buy it - or use an after market player.

Now those who are thinking about it if you are using Kaspersky it will carry across the licence not the GUI you will have to download that AGAIN and redo the whole configuration so many things I had on the 7 before are just not there now

Having said that you can install a 7 type start up screen and the speed is good but the only saving graces as far as I am concerned.

You wouldn't want the 8 or 8.1 version of WMP to start with! They removed all the codecs and dvd/vcd playback capabilities in favor of forcing people to go out any buy separate players to begin with! VLC is about the closest to WMP and is a freebie you can grab for either however.

That was one of the initial grievances to note here when first looking at the 8 previews. That and the reconstruct of the OS to suit tablet needs left you hanging in more ways then one! As far as 3rd party wares for things like working from a central point when any clean install of W8 or W8.1 the facts are obvious of how they decided to spread things all over and not just program splatter in tiles but hidden right click menu and phantom Crawler toolbar to get at things.

The right click menu underneath the pop up for the Start screen to get at the Control Panel is another awkward moment so as not to bring up the right click on desktop menu instead. While some boast about not needing the Start menu/All Programs combo you still worked from a central point there able to pin to the taskbar or right click to copy and paste shortcuts onto the desktop to then pin like an extra Windows Explorer icon for other types of toolbars like RocketDock or a Quick Launch addon bar without hitting the Win + E combo to get another file browser window open.

Then you have everytthing appearing in full screen mode or windowed items like apps until the 3rd party ModernMix app came along for 8 to consider. For touch & swipe on a tablet you can move along quite fast. But for the desktop it's a multistep burden over any traditional form of gui a desktop OS should be seeing. The Media Center wasn't any biggie since that was added in following XP MCE back in 2005 while the then upgrade to WMP 9 was 10 seeing support for things now being stripped out since you don't play dvds on tablet! MS said foobar to the desktop this time around!

Yep I eventually found it under the Windows Features window and it was ticked so I guess what started of with me just about to blow a gasket and dump 8 I now have the WNP a it was with my music still attached.

All the same the OS is nice and speedy - my boot time is just 12 secs to start screen and that is wit SanDisk SSD which was not that quick with 7 but overall so so convoluted which is making accepting it so hard.

Gees you guys put a scare in me about the WMP and WMC im like sh*t I use those all the time

I haven't even went 8 yet thought about it but have not wanted to go through the stuff ICIT talks about sounds like a burden to me not something you would say is better then last series for sure

Solarstarshines said:

Gees you guys put a scare in me about the WMP and WMC im like sh*t I use those all the time

I haven't even went 8 yet thought about it but have not wanted to go through the stuff ICIT talks about sounds like a burden to me not something you would say is better then last series for sure

Mate it is ok a long as you clone the 7 drive to a new one and upgrade the clone and the WMP can be found but at some expense of a bit of insanity plus Brinks help.

Once you do what I did the WMP comes back with all the music and you still have the original drive to fall back on. Speeds good (boots in 12 secs with a rough old SanDisk SSD) and it is ok if you get the Stardock8 start up screen so it looks like 7.