More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

bobafetthotmail said:

We'll be lucky if he is from outside MS, talented or not.

Yea I'm not sure which ledge Gate's pulled Ballmer off of to run Microsoft :)

Scoop said:

CNN home page is reporting this:

"Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer announced Friday that he will retire within the next 12 months."

Now there's the best news I've heard in a long time! It's also probably the best thing that could happen to Microsoft.
In fact, here's an idea.....M$ could offer him a free lifetime supply of W8 PCs (you know, the ones nobody wants) if he leaves NOW!

jimbo45 said:

To most of those who don't like the ribbon on office 2017/2010/2013 just press CTRL+F1 to remove most of it --then it's just about like Office 2003 -- but better as you can customize what appears on the toolbar.

Customising the Office 2007 Ribbon is tricky.

Customising the Office 2003 toolbars was easy.

gregrocker said:

Windows 8 is a flop by any standard. It brought down the CEO and if they don't mitigate it seriously in the near future it may bring down the company.

Those who feel betrayed by Windows 8 here are by no means a "minority group" as much as you obviously frown on those, but esteemed members who've been with these forums since the earliest days and helped build it to the undisputed top tech forums on the web, with more traffic and better reputation than all others put together.

Most of the Win7 repair protocols which are now Best Practices were developed here with the lead of SIW2 who lives and works inside the OS, and is equal resident of EightForums. Documented here he has blown the whistle on both the technological and MS-business-plan-revamp miscalculation underlying Windows 8. I've never known him to be wrong about anything.

So we know some things, and one thing we know is that Windows 8 is a disaster worse than Vista. And as those who know it best, we also believe that like with Vista the cure for Windows 8 is Windows 7, MS's wildly successful OS. It needs a SP2 and eventually a worthy successor.

I have not questioned the knowledge base of this, or the W8 forums; this forum certainly one of, if not the best. I do respect SIW2's work and contribution to this and eight forums, just happen to disagree with some of his warning about Windows 8. He did help me awhile ego to customize the flash bootdisk for Macrium and I was thankful for that.

My previous posting had been a reply to Scoop's statements that I didn't agree with. The "minority group" statement had been exaggerated, was due to the numbers I've seen at Bestbuy.

People making far fetching conclusion about Windows 8 tend to forget that other not so successful OSes did not bring down MS. They've just made a correction in relatively short time frame and everybody was happy. It remains to be seen in a year or so, if similar correction will be made to W8.1, or the 8.1 changes will be good enough for most people...

gregrocker said:

Windows 8 is a flop by any standard. It brought down the CEO and if they don't mitigate it seriously in the near future it may bring down the company.

Those who feel betrayed by Windows 8 here are by no means a "minority group" as much as you obviously frown on those, but esteemed members who've been with these forums since the earliest days and helped build it to the undisputed top tech forums on the web, with more traffic and better reputation than all others put together.

Most of the Win7 repair protocols which are now Best Practices were developed here with the lead of SIW2 who lives and works inside the OS, and is equal resident of EightForums. Documented here he has blown the whistle on both the technological and MS-business-plan-revamp miscalculation underlying Windows 8. I've never known him to be wrong about anything.

So we know some things, and one thing we know is that Windows 8 is a disaster worse than Vista. And as those who know it best, we also believe that like with Vista the cure for Windows 8 is Windows 7, MS's wildly successful OS. It needs a SP2 and eventually a worthy successor.

I have a friend here stuck for the time being running an 8 laptop until I replace the video card in my old Vista/7 beta-RC desktop I passed along. The case saw a brand new board, supply, and OS drive put in but was still running the older card at the time until it kept rebooting at startup. Vista that went back on will now however be replaced by 7 since my friend is finally making the move up from XP/Vista(better half runs Vista laptop).

The one thing for that user not being so pc savoy is that he hates 8! He didn't want to get into 7 when seeing the RC on his own old XP case but now has had a good look at 8 and wants out of it! As a use that has come up from the dos/3.1 days I look at 8 for what it actually is not a desktop version to begin with! On the contrary 8 is geared for "TABLET" and why it loads faster for that type of device being a Windows stripped down at the core level as well as stripping away many features seen previously.

Flop for tablet not! FLOP FOR DESKTOP? ABSOLUTELY! This is where all the confusion is since while you can still run it on a desktop it's not a desktop geared OS to begin with. And after 7 proved itself to be a winner for the best of the desktop versions over the years MS failed the lesson of sticking with what actually works! Somebody was too interested in Google-litis and Fruit Co. bashing to pay attention to the opportunity to keep MS rolling in a working direction.

Mfg. are pretty savvy sometimes. I just bought an MSI 17" laptop. It came loaded with Win 8. Before I purchased it I checked the MSI site for Win 7 drivers. They had them all. All I had to do was download the drivers, do a fresh Win 7 install and install the drivers. Every feature that worked with the Win 8 load is now working with Win 7. I would say they were prepared for the people that didn't want 8.

How about drivers for a lighted steel series keyboard. Three different colors plus different arrangements for lighting. I am not going to get it out now and go through it for you. Take my word for it. There is some drivers that Win 7 was not prepared to deliver.