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    System Builder: Windows 8 confusion and frustrations


    Posted: 15 Sep 2013
    With Windows 8.1 just around the corner, John Gillooly looks back at how the OS has fared over the past year, and the disconnect between what Microsoft delivers and what Windows users want.
    System Builder: Windows 8 confusion and frustrations - PC & Tech Authority
    BrightBlessings's Avatar Posted By: BrightBlessings
    15 Sep 2013



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    Thank you BrightBlessings. Excellent article. Not a lot of trash mouth just a simple article of what people want and what Microsoft doesn't want for what ever reason.
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       #2

    Microsoft must be counting on there being enough "Kool-Aid drinkers" to "tide them over" until everyone is forced to replace their dying PCs.
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    I tried one of the leaked builds from the RTM branch before the actual RTM was confirmed.

    I shuddered the whole time I used it. I don't want to go into details and start another needless discussion, but all I'm going to say is that I'm sad to see the desktop becoming more and more underwhelming. The whole Modern thing is cool, but the desktop portion of Windows 8 makes me ******* cry.
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    The whole "modern" thing is actually not cool. Frankly, it sucks, and is utterly pointless.

    I run Windows 7 on my Nexus 7 with overwhelming ease and efficiency.

    "Tablet" OSs are essentially simplified versions of real OSs for people that can't cope with real functionality and options. For someone that knows what they're doing, they just come up lacking. Web browsers for example, yeah, they suck for tablets/"smart" phones.

    The moronic thing (and I mean this without any reservations) is that tablets should be more like real OSs (such as Windows 7), not the other way around.

    Microsoft must be smoking some good stuff, and buying their own self-delusionals for heading in this direction. I mean seriously, a desktop PCs?!

    What I'm thinking that Microsoft must be thinking is that everyone is shallow and stupid. Well, news flash, that isn't actually the case, and yes, PCs need a real OS, not some tablet based want-to-be app. store selling thing that no one wants or needs to do real work on a computer.
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    The Modern thing IS cool, but its execution is gravely bad for desktops where we've already had MUCH more control and features for the past 20 years xD

    It's a "take it or leave it" situation because that's just what Windows 8 is.
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    Gornot said:
    The Modern thing IS cool, but its execution is gravely bad for desktops where we've already had MUCH more control and features for the past 20 years xD

    It's a "take it or leave it" situation because that's just what Windows 8 is.
    Sorry, but I completely disagree. It is utterly pointless for a real OS to emulate a dumbed down version of an OS for use on a real computer.

    Sorry if I'm being harsh, but someone has to go there and represent people that actually use their computers for more than "social" media, web browsing (though actually that is lacking too), et cetera.
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    I guess the point was that the Modern interface brings the best of the Windows Phone platform - "information at your fingertips" thing. I don't have to go to Outlook.com/social networking WEBSITE to check my notifications - I have a live tile for that. Weather, calendar appointments etc. It's all just one glance away instead of browsing, loading programs etc.

    If it was pointless Microsoft wouldn't have made it at all, the fact that its pointless to you is your own opinion.

    There IS value in the Modern interface, it just wasn't well balanced with the Desktop environment.
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    If it was pointless Microsoft wouldn't have made it at all, the fact that its pointless to you is your own opinion.
    Granted, it is my opinion, but I think Microsoft is thinking (and perhaps deservedly so) that they are falling behind in the current trend of handheld "smart" devises and their advancement and influence on how people use this kind of technology. However, I think it is actually in the completely wrong direction they are pointing their PC OS in. As I eluded to, hand held, mobile, "smart" OSs are simplified versions of real OSs to achieve the limited functionality of real OSs on an handheld device, streamlined and simplified for the average user.

    This disfunctionality of Windows 8 is simply in the way of a real PC platform and interface.

    If you want a popup notification when you get e-mails or whatever, then sure, set that up separately, but don't make the default OS look like a tablet for goodness sake.
    Last edited by Wrend; 18 Sep 2013 at 18:06.
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    I agree they shouldn't have done it - but now that they did, we can either accept it watch its demise xD
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