You would be wrong. Yes, you get a Start menu (of varying quality depending on the program used) and possibly an option to skip Metro on boot, but you still need to go into the Metro side of things for things such rudimentary things as changing your user account's password, choosing what network to connect to, and so forth.
calling it windows 8 very deceptive practice should be called windows tablet edition 1 and 8.1 should be called tablet edition 1.1 or 2 if they want to increase sales by use of a higher number ( higher number =/= better ) but you catch my drift
I had windows 8. Had being the key word. I couldn't figure out how to get into the bois. Apparently was done from the operating system. That was weird. There was probably a way to get there before the os but all my standard F2 ESC F8 and any other button i could think of didn't work.
Also I tried to upgrade to windows 8.1. So you go to the windows store app. It never showed up. Windows said try installing updates. I told Microsoft I did TRY to install updates. It sat there at 0% for hours and never did anything.
Later i turned it on and just let it sit there for a day. It finally worked. It turns out it was doing something even though it was at 0%. So im thinking to myself COME ON!!! IS THE PROGRAMMING IN THIS OS THAT BAD!!! Than it gave me the unhappy face BSOD. Yup.
The last straw was when i was expected to buy everything that SHOULD have come with it. You want windows media player? Well $10 please. Plus many of the programs i was trying to run on it were INCOMPATIBLE.
I know many people who said give it a chance. I did. But i never had to give windows 7 a chance did i? It worked from the beginning. Now you can get free Windows H8 upgrade from wonderful windows 7. You see I paid $100 for windows 7 to get away from 8. Why would I go back? Even windows 7 blue screens are better :).
O well thats my rant :)
When they've coerced us all to migrate to W8, they'll disable WMC. No TV on your pc ? - hey buy movies etc from MS. WMC is being phased out IMHO. Anyone remember when they turned off WMC EPG about a year or so ago ? Probably a test run for shut down. WMC is already a paid for extra for W8. Separating it from the OS makes it easier to get rid of. Shame, it's one of the best things MS have produced.
Windows - used to be an OS, now a shop.
WindowsXP and Windows7 are here to stay forever.
The reason, perhaps, because has remained the way of interacting with the system(W95, to W7).
The best 8 start menu I've found is Windows 7 explorer for Windows 8 which only works on 8 and not 8.1 the last I checked. SIW2 may know better since he knows most of these developers.
That particular Ate start menu grafts on the actual Win7 Start menu from it's disk, however this does not replace the functions which 8 has restricted to Metro, including most of the crApps which must each be reset from default to WMP, your Reader, Windows Picture viewer, etc. So giving a friend that Start menu is a favor, until they start calling to replace every crApp that pops up (and can't be closed).
The solution as always is to upgrade to Win7. The horrific part of this is that MS never paused to realize they had created the best OS ever in Win7. When I would mention this to them at Summits I would get a blank stare and reminder that "we're moving on." I deeply regret that more MVP's did not speak up but we were ashamedly cowed by blunt insistence that our input wasn't wanted on Ate. When we finally did speak up after top forums' producers were invited into a Focus Group at November's Summit, they agreed with our blunt assessments but inferred it is too late.
So the new campaign asking customers to "be brave" to buy their products has a double meaning to me. I show how big my brave is now but it is too late. Nevertheless we have an even more important mission as its defenders here at the home of Win7, which just happens to be the top tech forum on the web in history.
▶ Sara Bareilles - Brave - YouTube
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I believe that Win 8 opens the door for more people to switch to Macs. If they're going to have to learn a new UI, might as well be one that gets good reviews. The only saving factor (for M$) is that most of the new purchasers don't realize what they're getting into until it's too late. Almost every 8 machine I work on gets Classic Shell installed, to the great relief of the owner.
Running Windows in general is like living in a town where they rename the streets every 3-4 years. If you're familiar with the streets, the name changes are not a problem, you can still get where you're going. In Windows 8 they MOVED the damn streets!
Absolutely, I know only 1 person who had to buy a new PC because his old ME system was really dated - and he bought a Mac. He got scared of 8 although I kept telling him that 8 is not all that bad.I believe that Win 8 opens the door for more people to switch to Macs
So my statistical sample says that all sampled users buy Macs, LOL.
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