New Microsoft VP consigns the PC to irrelevance

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  1. Posts : 26,863
    Windows 11 Pro
       #110

    GrayGhost2 said:
    @ essenbe
    GrayGhost2 said:
    I don't want to go through the pain of downloading various "versions" of Linux, Mint, Debian, Ubuntu, etc ... and installing, to only find they are butt ugly (for me).
    essenbe said:
    Why not set them up in a VM with VMware. It takes about 10 minutes to install it and 10 seconds to delete it if you don't like it. There are a couple of tutorials here on how to do it.
    Where?

    I found Found VMware Player - Install and Setup Zorin and VMware Player - Expand Virtual Machine Hard Disk in "V" tutorials ...

    Am I close ... ? :)
    Yes. Follow the tutorial for Zorin (which isn't bad) and you can install any distro. The only problem I have is installing the VMware tools for each distro. You probably won't have that problem, but it's worth the effort. Makes everything easy
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  2. Posts : 5,941
    Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
       #111

    Britton30 said:
    Hi there

    works fine for Emergency Backup --but you really need to backup regularly -- I tend to take ONE full backup a week and then nightly run "incremental" backups. So say I want Wednesdays' image -- I restore the full backup from Sunday (I start my cycle on Sundays) and then the incrementals for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. - Then I have my image as of Wednesday evening -- simple.

    Even Free backup systems are adding incremental backup features.

    If you are happy with any Linux distro it's relatively easy to CLONE any sort of Disk partition (even GPT) by simply using the command line

    SUDO dd if=/dev/partition of=/target device bs=16384k conv=noerror,notrunc

    Note for largish disks it could take a while but it makes a 100% replica. your input could be say a whole disk (/dev/sda or something similar) or just a partition /dev/sda1)

    It's a basic command so if you haven't got any specific backup products this will work FREE !!!

    (To check what's actually mounted or known to the Linux OS - including external drives simply type SUDO fdisk -l -- fairly similar to the DOS cmd).

    cheers
    jimbo
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  3. Posts : 24,479
    Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
       #112

    Yeah I knew I shouldn't have posted the Peppermint link due to its title. IT was to show GrayGhost another bootable Linux distro.
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  4. Posts : 1,002
    XP Pro (x86) | 7 HP (x86) & (x64) | 7 Pro (x64)
       #113

    Maybe this post should be in VMware Player - Install and Setup Zorin tutorial ?

    essenbe said:
    Follow the tutorial for Zorin (which isn't bad) and you can install any distro.
    I have opted for VMware Player for personal use.
    As per Free for Personal Use section on VMwarePlayer Plus web page.
    Download link caption: "download" ... is not very obvious.
    On the download page Download VMware Player the "Details" imply license key. I assume the home-user version will do everything I need, without a license key, for testing OS's/programs?

    If the virtual OS is a Linux OS (distro) ... I assume Wine will be required to test Windows programs/apps ?

    essenbe said:
    The only problem I have is installing the VMware tools for each distro. You probably won't have that problem, but it's worth the effort. Makes everything easy
    Would VMware Player need to be replaced (uninstall/reinstall) for each program/OS I test ?

    I don't understand the difference between SandBoxie and VMware-Player.
    . . . SandBoxie to test Windows programs and VMware-Player to evaluate Linux OSs ?
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  5. Posts : 4,049
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
       #114

    For those that are interested; Linux Mint 17 (LTS) is now out. :)
    GrayGhost2 said:
    I don't understand the difference between SandBoxie and VMware-Player.
    . . . SandBoxie to test Windows programs and VMware-Player to evaluate Linux OSs ?
    Effectively you create as many "PCs" as you want (Windows VMs & Linux Distro VMs) and they exist as directories on your chosen HDD.
    You can run as many VMs (Guest OSes) simultaneously as your machine can cope with and they run on your Windows OS (Host OS).

    I've never used Sandboxie, but I think it creates some sort of protected envirionment in Windows ("Sandbox") and programs are run from it.

    A few hours ago, I created a Linux Mint 17 VM to test the new release (before installing it on my real machine).
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 17 May 2014 at 06:20. Reason: Additional
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  6. Posts : 5,941
    Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
       #115

    Hi there

    remember this is an RC - won't be long now before full version comes out.

    Been trying this on a VM -- some people report that NVIDIA graphics give problems (as always nothing new there) but works fine with INTEL. Others say sound isn't always working but can't test that until I run it on a physical machine --works fine as a VM.

    Note also until the FINAL you won't get any LIVE CD's just yet.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. Posts : 26,863
    Windows 11 Pro
       #116

    Jimbo, the release notes say the problems are with Nvidia Optimus systems. But, I'll tell you if it has problems with regular Nvidia cards shortly.


    @lehnerus2000, so far what are your impressions of it? I'm downloading it right now. I'll put it in a VM as soon as it finishes. I think I have too many VMs right now to keep up with. Something has to go.
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  8. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #117

    I just downloaded it from GrayGoast post.
    I have opted for VMware Player for personal use.

    It downloaded quick no muss no fuss. Haven't tried it yet.
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  9. Posts : 4,566
    Windows 10 Pro
       #118

    Layback Bear said:
    I just downloaded it from GrayGoast post.
    I have opted for VMware Player for personal use.

    It downloaded quick no muss no fuss. Haven't tried it yet.
    You will love it. Virtual machines are a lot of fun. Personally I think anyone who is interested in learning more about pcs and operating systems in general should have it installed and use it. It is also very useful to have to test software and the like.
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  10. Posts : 1,002
    XP Pro (x86) | 7 HP (x86) & (x64) | 7 Pro (x64)
       #119

    My Toshiba has NVIDIA GeForce 315M (graphics card)
    Might this be a problem with MintMate ?
    From Jimbo's comments (I assume) MintMate is RC not final release ?

    @essenbe +1 ... any results yet ?

    SPECS:
    Toshiba Satellite C665
    Motherboard: TOSHIBA Portable PC
    Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 315M
    OS:= Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit), sp1 (Build 7601) OEM
    UI:=Classic Shell Start + Classic Explorer
    Windows Indexing = disabled
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