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So I assume all of you dissing cloud backups are all managing your own offsite storage then? Otherwise this is basically the equivalent of saying you don't trust cars so you don't leave the house.
So I assume all of you dissing cloud backups are all managing your own offsite storage then? Otherwise this is basically the equivalent of saying you don't trust cars so you don't leave the house.
Hi there
Cloud Backups for a lot of people are simply NOT feasible. Also please realize the difference between BACKUP (needs to be taken regularly -- may be even DAILY) and ARCHIVE - essentially static data that rarely changes and really only needs to be copied ONCE in its entirety.
Typical cases --
1) Capped Internet Bandwidth -- if you need to backup large music / video libraries then No good -- these can often run to several TB or more.
2) Upload speed -- even with fast broadband most people have UPLOAD speeds sometimes as much as 10X SLOWER than the downloads. Fairly typical in NON cabled areas is around 0.5Mb/s or even slower UPLOAD.
Would just take TOO long for reliable backup.
3) amount of storage space offered - usually far too small to be even remotely useful for serious backup - even a standard Windows OS partition can be around 60 - 70 GB.
4) if you need an OS restore you could be offline so how do you retrieve your data.
5) cost will increase once people get "locked in" to the system.
6) you have NO CONTROL over where this data is stored, what other types of users also have accounts on the same server and even who has access to it -- just look at the recent ebay fiasco. What happens also if somebody uploads pirated torrent content to the same cloud server (not to your account I might add) and then the FBI or MAFAA (MAFIA !!) order the whole site to be taken down maybe forever while a whole slew of court cases take place.
I think except for specific File Sharing - especially when email attachment sizes are limited as in a workplace then it CAN have some use for individuals -- but then I'd use something like DROPBOX - but as a regular backup / archive tool -- forget it.
(Businesses are a different scenario -- they might have their OWN dedicated "cloud servers" from which they can create standardized Virtual Desktop Infrastructures etc - makes maintenance and software installations simpler and possibly cheaper too).
Cheers
jimbo
Hi there
Ripping CD's to flac -- I have bought in my time around 1000 - 1500 CD's -- if you assume these are around 600 MB average then 0.6 X 1.5 X 10**3 = 9TB just for Audio. When I first started buying music - iPODS and mp3 format hadn't even been THOUGHT of. VINYL was still quite big and for the rest it was all CD's.
(I'm glad I did rip these too -- sometimes unlike VINYL - old CD's can become unplayable !!!).
I also archive DVD's to ISO images -- at an average of around 7 - 8 GB for a standard DVD9 or larger for Blu ray you only need to have around 12 DVD's per TB.
I have TWO copies backed up to external HDD's - I use anyDVD to extract the ISO from commercial DVD's / Blu Ray's and rip the audio CD's to FLAC with the old WINAMP program.
Nothing pirated there.
I HATE compressed mp3 music -- however people downloading tracks from iTunes in highly compressed mp3 format probably can't understand why a music library could be several TB's in size.
My phone can play FLAC and there's a 64 GB micro sdHC card in it so I just copy what I want every so often on to the phone.
I rarely buy CD's / DVD's any more but I still wanted to archive my collection in LOSSLESS formats.
I also store discs offsite too. - However if my house burned down or I was a victim of some other natural (or even man made) disaster I think I wouldn't be too worried about my backups !!! there'd be a lot more to do first. However a much more likely scenario is you could get burgled - so store data also off site -- your DATA in a lot of cases is far more valuable than the actual hardware (computer / laptop etc) itself.
Fortunately where I live this type of petty crime is pretty rare - if I did get an "uninvited guest" I think the dogs would "enjoy their dinner" and the local Police would probably applaud the dogs too!!. All we get is a bit of boisterousness in the evenings in the town centres on Thur-Sun nights as people go out drinking / eating / partying etc etc. Nothing problematic there.
Cheers
jimbo
Sigh* You people just do not get it. And I am not going to bother trying to explain it over and over. A lot of others here have easily explained multiple good reasons as to not use these services. It's fine if you like cloud backups, but I do not and will not trust them.
Case closed.
Andrew, you will not be able to convince these wannabe techies. If I have any data that I cannot do without, I sure wouldn't trust it to someone who is in the business of making money.
i'm andrew129260 "please tell me you are joking. sorry but anyone in their right mind wouldn't trust the cloud. in my case i have 4 internal hdd's not counting c which hold everything i do not want to loose if for some reason c goes down. i also have a large usb 3.0 hdd that holds a synced copy of everything on those 4 drives plus the items on my desktop, so basically i am my own cloud service.