Microsoft warns against Windows XP security update hack
-
Sorry L.F. but you don't know much about what the true costs are to a business to just update one release of an OS. There's more to it than slapping a PC on someone's desk. I don't know what background you have in business but clearly it's not administrative or budget related. Perhaps the closest you've come to business is the checkout lanes at WalMart because that seems to be your take on the simplicity of a large corporation making changes.
Here's a quick view of what it really costs for a fortune 500 company to make changes.
Change Terminals (PCs): $13.5 million
Update OS: $3.2 million
Update software: $60 million
Personnel Training: $380 million
Lost Op. Costs: $700 million
Stock value loss: $2.2 billion
Net Loss to company: $3.356+ Billion
So quit your crybaby pressure to get everyone to agree with you. The ones that count are ignoring you.
-
-
I find it highly ironic that the end of support for an OS a lot of people didn't want to upgrade from near enough coincided with the release of an OS that not a lot of people wanted to upgrade to. No wonder HP started selling machines with Windows 7 installed again.
-
![]()
Sorry L.F. but you don't know much about what the true costs are to a business to just update one release of an OS. There's more to it than slapping a PC on someone's desk. I don't know what background you have in business but clearly it's not administrative or budget related. Perhaps the closest you've come to business is the checkout lanes at WalMart because that seems to be your take on the simplicity of a large corporation making changes.
Here's a quick view of what it really costs for a fortune 500 company to make changes.
Change Terminals (PCs): $13.5 million
Update OS: $3.2 million
Update software: $60 million
Personnel Training: $380 million
Lost Op. Costs: $700 million
Stock value loss: $2.2 billion
Net Loss to company: $3.356+ Billion
So quit your crybaby pressure to get everyone to agree with you. The ones that count are ignoring you.
Actually, I do have a pretty good idea of the costs; I used to work for a large electric/irrigation utility (the company I get my pension and retirement medical coverage from), including some time in management, and have seen first hand what is involved with upgrading (both hardware and training expenses) and what can happen when poor decisions are made, such as purchasing equipment that depended on computers and software that couldn't be upgraded when the time came. I was the one who interfaced with our IT department for my department (warehousing) on software and hardware for the department and often personally handled all the replacement hardware (computers, monitors, etc.) for the entire company, including processing the retired hardware. After retiring from that company at 55, I worked 5 1/2 years for a large convenience store chain, advancing to a lead position (but not into actual management even though the company tried to push me into it because I didn't like the way the company abused their salaried employees and I preferred the 4/10 schedule I had working third shift), and was involved in hardware and software upgrades, including implementation and training.
As far as the figures you are throwing round, what is your source? What is the company? What percentage of total profits and operating expenses do those figures represent? What was the amortization schedule? Figures like that out of context and without validation are meaningless.
-
I find it highly ironic that the end of support for an OS a lot of people didn't want to upgrade from near enough coincided with the release of an OS that not a lot of people wanted to upgrade to. No wonder HP started selling machines with Windows 7 installed again.
Actually, HP never stopped selling Win 7 machines; they just decided to capitalize on the Win 8's lack of appeal to the home user market.
-
-
I have never been in position of buying, or decision on that to buy for a business or corporation.
Just throwing numbers around without showing the source is a waste of time.
Anybody, corporation, company, government that buy a operating system and hardware and thinks it's going to last forever needs to live at Disney World and dance with Goofy while at work.
Ten years is a very very very long time for a operating system and hardware to be able to do the job needed to be done and done with proper security. The computing world just moves to fast for anything ten years old to the job.
For those companies that for what ever reason want to hang onto the old equipment and operating system and programs just but the updates from Microsoft.
I'm quite sure Microsoft will keep selling updates as long as their are buyers.
In my world we call that kicking the can down the road.
-
I find it highly ironic that the end of support for an OS a lot of people didn't want to upgrade from near enough coincided with the release of an OS that not a lot of people wanted to upgrade to. No wonder HP started selling machines with Windows 7 installed again.
Actually, HP never stopped selling Win 7 machines;
they just decided to capitalize on the Win 8's lack of appeal to the home user market.
That's what I meant by 'selling'. Not physically selling.
-
I find it highly ironic that the end of support for an OS a lot of people didn't want to upgrade from near enough coincided with the release of an OS that not a lot of people wanted to upgrade to. No wonder HP started selling machines with Windows 7 installed again.
Actually, HP never stopped selling Win 7 machines;
they just decided to capitalize on the Win 8's lack of appeal to the home user market.
That's what I meant by 'selling'. Not physically selling.
Sorry, my mistake.
-
-
I am at no surprise at the warning not to apply anything new regarding any existing XP installs presently in use since MS is now finished with all support. Anything found now in regards to updates could easily be some form of malware!
That's not how this works. It tricks Windows Updates into thinking the computer is running Windows Server 2003 or Windows Embedded, both of which are built on the same base kernel as Windows XP, but have different features and such. It's still not possible to install malware via windows updates without being previously infected.
I wasn't specifically pointing to just the item mentioned in the article there but other forms of OS tricksters that could be used to open new doors for slipping new bugs into the 13yr. old version now that regular MS support is no longer being seen. The possibility is there while the chances of it being seen at this late date is growing less and less each day as XP use wanes into the old folks home.
-
Lets have a moment of silence for XP. It has earned it.
A great system for many years.
RIP XP.
-
Hmm, I wonder if these smart hackers will apply it to Linux to get Windows Updates too?
Quote