Jan. 13 marks the end of mainstream support for Windows 7

Arc · 13 Jan 2015

If Windows 10 gets rid of 8 like childish UI, I will not hesitate to upgrade to 10; when 7 will be over.

jimbo45 · 13 Jan 2015

Arc said:

If Windows 10 gets rid of 8 like childish UI, I will not hesitate to upgrade to 10; when 7 will be over.

You never even have to SEE metro if you don't want to. You will have to remove the right hand part of the W10 menu (not difficult and easily done). Remember also that W10 isn't in Final yet so things might change on the configuration issue.

Cheers
jimbo

ThrashZone · 13 Jan 2015

I doubt that's what Archie is talking about,
And removing the right side is lame it needs to be customizable = Text only if that's what people want,

If Microsoft would stop all of this mobile and touch screen crap for a desktop this would not be happening.

Arc · 13 Jan 2015

jimbo45 said:

Arc said:

If Windows 10 gets rid of 8 like childish UI, I will not hesitate to upgrade to 10; when 7 will be over.

You never even have to SEE metro if you don't want to. You will have to remove the right hand part of the W10 menu (not difficult and easily done).

Cheers
jimbo

That will loss a full functional start menu. Metro in start menu is not the biggest deal, but the taksbar/start menu/explorer window designs are as dumb as 8 in 10.

jimbo45 · 13 Jan 2015

Hi there

Taskbar is fine in W10 -- go back a few posts in the thread as I've added a pic of W10 start (desktop) menu - Taskbar works exactly as in W7 and you can have the same custom toolbars too if you want.

Metro probably will be settable at install time to either include or not depending on the type of device / environment you want to use but it's only a few clicks to remove those menu entries.

Cheers
jimbo

groze · 13 Jan 2015

Jimbo45,

There is a whole story (Not just postings) that windows 10 preview did seem to brick a certain brand of hard drives. We are not sure if it is really brick or if windows 10 preview somehow did a partition overlap causing it to seem bricked. We also don't know if a image restore fixed that issue. There is so many ways a hard disk can seem bricked when it is not. One example even with windows 7 if somehow an active partition get changed or disabled, it will cause a boot error and you have to select or active a partition using the repair or install disk. That actually happened to me when I was using windows 10 preview.

You said

I challenge a lot of W7 users to tell me what they CAN'T do in W10 that they CAN do in W7 (apart possibly from some really old legacy programs).

That what I did.

ThrashZone · 13 Jan 2015

Actually it was a motherboard issue not hdd issue

hdd was just the object put to sleep :)

Arc · 13 Jan 2015

jimbo45 said:

Hi there

Taskbar is fine in W10 --

It is fine?

Flat transparency, mismatch start menu color, bad color schemes, and no visual depth.

If XP, Vista (it was the best in this regard) and 7 are visual pleasures, all the later versions are just painful to look at.

Functionality comes later, at first it need to be pleasant to look at; specially when I am habituated with a beautiful OS over a long time.

gulls777 · 14 Jan 2015

jimbo45 said:

Arc said:

If Windows 10 gets rid of 8 like childish UI, I will not hesitate to upgrade to 10; when 7 will be over.

You never even have to SEE metro if you don't want to. You will have to remove the right hand part of the W10 menu (not difficult and easily done). Remember also that W10 isn't in Final yet so things might change on the configuration issue.

Cheers
jimbo

Even 8 can be customized to be look like 7 but was that enough to attract 7 users???

jimbo45 · 14 Jan 2015

Hi there

W8 could be customised to LOOK like W7 but operating it was quite different - intuitively you could do the same thing on W7 and W8 and you'd get different results. W8.1 was slightly better but W10 can operate about 99.9% identically to how you worked on W7.

Remember here this W10 preview is aimed primarily at WORKPLACE Desktop users rather than home users / hobbyists who might have a lot of very different hardware to stuff usually found in Offices. The Consumer preview will certainly be a bit or maybe a lot different and the final release will definitely have some features we haven't even thought about yet including different installation options such as Mobile, Desktop or "Hybrid" (combined).

I'm saying for those that want to upgrade and use new features for example the Storage Spaces I've mentioned before can do so much easier by skipping W8/8.1 entirely and trying W10.

W7 is fine for those that like it - but remember now it's not going to get anything new added apart from security fixes - which if you are happy with your hardware etc - fine.

I used W7 for a few years - but I'm quite happy playing with the new stuff and unlike W8 I think Ms has actually rectified a lot of the complaints.

As far as Gadgets are concerned -- decent RE-SIZEABLE dynamically updating dockable floating SENSIBLE Metro apps could actually replace these quite nicely - I wouldn't mind for example a Borderless updating stock tracker for example which can be moved and re-sized at will.
Note though these must be BORDERLESS for the best desktop effects. Re-sizeable is also necessary - a lot of people now have several monitors including some very large ones which wasn't the case when W7 first appeared.

If you actually reflect what Gadgets do - they are essentially a pre-cursor of what decent Metro apps could be -- OK there aren't any decent ones yet but that's up to the next lot of developers to produce some instead of the rather pathetic lot from Ms we've seen so far.

Anyway that REALLY is it from me on this thread.

Cheers
jimbo