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Windows 7: March 10th 2015 Windows Updates

14 Mar 2015   #41
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Seffrid View Post
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I had another 4 updates this morning, plus the usual MSE update & as you can see 2 of them were installed twice. No reboot & all went well.

Attachment 352671
With the exception of KB3032359 which is from this week's updates, the other Windows Updates (as opposed to the MSE one) were all from last month's list. Had you already installed them last month?
Seffrid. You have actually raised an interesting point, that may need to be kept in mind. Those updates were actually installed in Feb 15.
But yesterday I ran Win Disc Clean Up as Administrator to clear out all the old Windows Updates & it seems that may be the reason for reinstalling some of them this morning. This seems to indicate that Disc Clean Up may actually remove some updates, even those that have been installed 2 months ago.


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14 Mar 2015   #42
Jesse Williams

Windows 10 Home 64-bit
 
 

Mine was freezing up too, but it was caused by the wrong display driver that I had installed. Plus, it needed to be cleaned up. It's running better now.
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14 Mar 2015   #43
jonnyhillow

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ranger4 View Post
I had another 4 updates this morning, plus the usual MSE update & as you can see 2 of them were installed twice. No reboot & all went well.

Attachment 352671


I kept having (kb3021952) and (kb3032359) wanting to re install although they were already showing as installed.
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14 Mar 2015   #44
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jonnyhillow View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ranger4 View Post
I had another 4 updates this morning, plus the usual MSE update & as you can see 2 of them were installed twice. No reboot & all went well.

Attachment 352671


I kept having (kb3021952) and (kb3032359) wanting to re install although they were already showing as installed.
Have run run Win Disc Cleaner in the last few days?. That's what I think caused my computer to reinstall those 2 updates today.
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15 Mar 2015   #45
Seffrid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

My experience of cleaners designed to freshen up the registry and system files is that they cause more problems than they cure. I don't go near them these days.
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15 Mar 2015   #46
Jonguy30

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Seffrid View Post
My experience of cleaners designed to freshen up the registry and system files is that they cause more problems than they cure. I don't go near them these days.
Including CCleaner? I've heard it's more "safe" than others, but still I haven't touched the registry cleaner part of it. The registry is just so sensitive I'm afraid I would mess something up.
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15 Mar 2015   #47
Anak

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1
 
 

Any cleaner has the capability to be dangerous including CCleaner.

I use it to look through and clean the registry of any old programs that I've removed, I always make the backup, run the scan, and still look at every entry.

CCleaner - Delete Junk Files
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15 Mar 2015   #48
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anak View Post
Any cleaner has the capability to be dangerous including CCleaner.

I use it to look through and clean the registry of any old programs that I've removed, I always make the backup, run the scan, and still look at every entry.

CCleaner - Delete Junk Files
I haven't been at all impressed with CCleaner. I've tried using it in the past only to get less than happy results so now I only use it to wipe HDDs, mostly to torture test new ones. I had to disable every feature except that one and take it out of the start up folder because, otherwise, it acted like a virus, running up my CPU usage and interfering with some of my programs. When I close the program after using it, I have to go into Windows Process Manager to actually kill the process which was still running, again acting like a virus.

I have had excellent luck using Glary Utilities. It has, among many other things, an extremely conservative registry cleaner that only removes entries that don't point to anything. I've never had a problem with it.
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15 Mar 2015   #49
jonnyhillow

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Very helpful comments everybody , thing that confuses me about CCleaner is this issue has only shown up after last tuesdays update . I never once had this issue before and i have used CCleaner regularly .

One thing to note about CCleaner and a ton of other "free" programs out there these days , if you don't go with the CCleaner "portable" version it installs a "pup".

This can be confirmed by running "Eset" online scanner but you must check enable "pups" detection and "check" the boxes of the advanced detection options beforehand.

So far "Eset" is the only on demand scanner i have used that picks up these "pups" since many companies have declassified pups and do not pick up on them anymore.
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15 Mar 2015   #50
Urthboundmisfit

Win 10 Pro x64, Win 7 Pro x64
 
 
same problem here...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jonnyhillow View Post
I kept having (kb3021952) and (kb3032359) wanting to re install although they were already showing as installed.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ranger4 View Post
Have run run Win Disc Cleaner in the last few days?. That's what I think caused my computer to reinstall those 2 updates today.
I have a discussion going @Wincert.net regarding this problem: [14 mars 2015] Update list GDR pour Windows 7 SP1 x86/x64 (Fr-En-De-Es-It) - Page 23 - Windows 7 et 8 - WinCert.net Forums - Page 23

Couple of users @BC having same issue here:
Windows update shows two updates need to be installed but already are - Windows 7
Windows update shows two updates need to be installed but already are - Page 3 - Windows 7

KB3021952 (Feb "Cumulative" Update for IE) invloves a "bundled" update, it includes KB3023607. KB3032359 (March "Cumulative" Update for IE) is "bundled" it includes KB3040335 & KB3023607 (Again???) KB3032359 allegedly supersedes KB3021952 but both are needed along with KB3023607 to have a fully patched system. The problem occurs when Windows Update Cleanup (deepclean) is run after all patches are installed, it removes KB3023607, the "bundled" update from BOTH months as "superseded":

Code:
2015-03-12 09:31:26, Info                  CBS    Adding: Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.0

2015-03-12 09:31:31, Info                  CBS    DC:  Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.0: unique  components: 58 Size: 20.54 MB (21,538,670 bytes)
2015-03-12 09:31:31, Info                  CBS    Total size of superseded packages: 20.54 MB (21,538,670 bytes)
The KB's 3021952 & 3032359 (5.2mb) that are continually removed, re-offered/installed... lather, rinse, repeat... are actually the bundled component KB3023607 which gets removed by deepclean.

RANT ON:
Micro$oft should consider renaming their "bundled" updates, more often than not it seems they are actually bungled updates. And while we're at it WHY do I have/need 3, count 'em, 3 "Cumulative" Updates for IE installed; KB2976627 (yet ANOTHER of those bungled, oops bundled updates) KB3021952 & KB3032359????? /RANT OFF
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