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Windows 7: March 10th 2015 Windows Updates

15 Mar 2015   #61
Urthboundmisfit

Win 10 Pro x64, Win 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
By Windows Update cleanup are you talking about the standard Windows Disk Cleanup. I use Disk cleanup maybe once every few weeks.
Almost but not quite. You need Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2852386 (or 32 bit if 32 bit system) installed to gain WU Cleanup functionality in Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe)

Tutorial here: Windows Updates - Remove Outdated Updates in Windows 7


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15 Mar 2015   #62
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.3 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
CCleaner recently included some sort of resident monitoring function.

You can disable it in the Monitoring tab (Options > Monitoring).
As I said, I disabled everything except disk wiping and I still had to close a CCleaner process in Task Manager. It also inserted itself in the start menu and I had to remove that. It's like a bloody virus!
Are you using the latest version?

The first version that had monitoring included in it had some bug.
Disabling Monitoring didn't disable the startup entry for it.

I had to manually disable it (Tools > Startup).

All the subsequent CCleaner updates have worked correctly (on my PC and VMs).
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16 Mar 2015   #63
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
CCleaner recently included some sort of resident monitoring function.

You can disable it in the Monitoring tab (Options > Monitoring).
As I said, I disabled everything except disk wiping and I still had to close a CCleaner process in Task Manager. It also inserted itself in the start menu and I had to remove that. It's like a bloody virus!
Are you using the latest version?

The first version that had monitoring included in it had some bug.
Disabling Monitoring didn't disable the startup entry for it.

I had to manually disable it (Tools > Startup).

All the subsequent CCleaner updates have worked correctly (on my PC and VMs).
Yes, I was using the latest version.
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16 Mar 2015   #64
jamis

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

We run CCleaner multiple times a day to clean up after each IE11 session my wife does. CCleaner is at the current version and we have not had any issues with the March Patch Tuesday updates. This is the free 64 bit version with System Monitoring and Active Monitoring checked on.
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16 Mar 2015   #65
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Urthboundmisfit View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
By Windows Update cleanup are you talking about the standard Windows Disk Cleanup. I use Disk cleanup maybe once every few weeks.
Almost but not quite. You need Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2852386 (or 32 bit if 32 bit system) installed to gain WU Cleanup functionality in Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe)

Tutorial here: Windows Updates - Remove Outdated Updates in Windows 7
I have the KB2852386 for removing outdated updates
Again I run disk cleanup quite regularly and haven't noticed any issues.
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16 Mar 2015   #66
Urthboundmisfit

Win 10 Pro x64, Win 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
I have the KB2852386 for removing outdated updates
Again I run disk cleanup quite regularly and haven't noticed any issues.
Noted, the information I posted was for the sake of the general forum population who might stumble across this thread and not know it. :)

Let me ask you a question, if I may, that may sound strange or unrelated but I have my reasons to ask: Do you operate your OS with UAC on or off and at what level? I have reason to suspect that this may come into play somehow. Thanks in advance!
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16 Mar 2015   #67
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

I operate with UAC on at Admin level & notify me when programs try to make changes.
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17 Mar 2015   #68
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

I have UAC set to default - Notify me only when programs try to make changes to my computer.
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17 Mar 2015   #69
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I always have UAC set to max.
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17 Mar 2015   #70
Urthboundmisfit

Win 10 Pro x64, Win 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ranger4 View Post
I operate with UAC on at Admin level.
Thanks for replying. Unfortunately it goes againt my "theory" (more of a hunch, really) that installing KB's 3021952 & 3033929 with UAC disabled causes the cleanmgr.exe deepclean problem of removing KB3023607 (5.2mb) which is the "child" update that comes bundled with 3021952 & 3033929 as I described here earlier on this topic thread.

Uninstalling KB's 3021952, 3033929 & 3023607 (which I had installed with UAC disabled) and reinstalling 3021952 & 3033929 with UAC enabled finally resolved my problem as I described on my topic at Micro$oft Answers Forum here:

KB3023607 repeatedly removed by deepclean after KB3032359/KB3021952 (5.2mb ea) repeatedly offered/installed...

Quote:
I may have (I hope) stumbled on a solution for the Kb-3023607-3021952-3032359 snafu and you're not gonna believe the solution (at least in my case) is as simple as 3 little letters... UAC
Confirmed in VMWare (twice) and "Live" system (once). When KB's 3021952, 3032359, 3023607 & their "child" components are installed with UAC disabled, cleamgr.exe (DeepClean) removed KB3023607:
Code:
2015-03-16 10:49:08, Info CBS Adding: Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.0 2015-03-16 10:49:13, Info CBS DC: Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.0: unique components: 58  Size: 20.54 MB (21,538,670 bytes) 2015-03-16 10:49:13, Info CBS Total size of superseded packages: 20.54 MB (21,538,670 bytes)
When KB's 3021952, 3032359, 3023607 & their "child" components are installed with UAC enabled, DeepClean does not remove KB3023607 & WU is satisfied

Can anyone else confirm/refute/reproduce/test etc this scenario? Be back this afternoon (it's 11:30 AM here now)
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