Microsoft silently preparing your PC for Win 10

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  1. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #280

    whs said:
    Towards the end of the year it will be interesting to see what the millions of desktop users that fell for the free upgrade will say. My guess would be that we will get a lot of requests on how to get back to W7. The W8.1 users may have less problems.

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  2. Posts : 73
    Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit
       #281

    Layback Bear said:
    whs said:
    Towards the end of the year it will be interesting to see what the millions of desktop users that fell for the free upgrade will say. My guess would be that we will get a lot of requests on how to get back to W7. The W8.1 users may have less problems.

    Actually, there will be lots of geeks who will install WX into a vhd file, native boot that every once in a blue moon just to see how windows is evolving, and add fictitious data to the OS usage stats to make MSFT very happy...

    In the end, I'd rather be the one with the free WX license after that one year is up than without. Having to put up with an extra vhd file to contain the "freeware" won't bother me at all, nor my current setup, which has XP not 7 as the default OS in a multi boot scenario...
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  3. whs
    Posts : 26,213
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #282

    You are talking about a rather sophisticated setup. Explain that to mom and pap across the street. LOL.
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  4. Posts : 73
    Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit
       #283

    whs said:
    You are talking about a rather sophisticated setup. Explain that to mom and pap across the street. LOL.
    That's the part that's commonly misunderstood. The geek's way is to cmd a few diskpart commands. It only takes a few cmd commands to set up that native booting WX vhd file folks! The other way is thru disk management's GUI, which ironically I find rather complicated...

    There's like a lot of money to be potentially made to teach average folks to set up WX native booting alongside their current W7/W8.1 setup within that free 1 yr upgrade period. VHD native booting isn't rocket science, which is why it's so teachable to average folks who just want to leave their current system alone while still having access to the latest tech in WX...
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  5. whs
    Posts : 26,213
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #284

    I think you have never seen simple users. I see over 800 of them all the time in the local computer club (which is really more of a social club). If you use a right click in class they complain that it is too advanced and when you move an icon on the club systems from the left to the right, they are discombobulated.

    I invite you to teach those folks cmd commands - no chance. They want to read their mail or skype with their grandkids. That's about their use of the PC. I was trying to get many of them to make regular images - in a 4 hour class. 90% don't do it.
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  6. Posts : 2,047
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-BIT
       #285

    I don't do either, my computer is full of non sense crap that I could even schedule a re-installation without creating a backup.
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  7. Posts : 73
    Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit
       #286

    whs said:
    I think you have never seen simple users. I see over 800 of them all the time in the local computer club (which is really more of a social club). If you use a right click in class they complain that it is too advanced and when you move an icon on the club systems from the left to the right, they are discombobulated.

    I invite you to teach those folks cmd commands - no chance. They want to read their mail or skype with their grandkids. That's about their use of the PC. I was trying to get many of them to make regular images - in a 4 hour class. 90% don't do it.
    Well, I certainly envy those folks. Their needs are fully met with a simple $100 Android tablet with zero maintenance involved. For other "PC" demographics, VHD native booting WX is the way to go to obtain a free license while still keeping our current setups intact...
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  8. whs
    Posts : 26,213
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #287

    True, but many of them are widows who inherited the PC from their husband. Until last year we were still teaching "Learning the PC with XP". Some of them I had to show how to move the mouse - literally moving their hand. We try to help, but it is not easy. But these folks are great at grill night.
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  9. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #288

    Yea personally I don't see how you can use an Upgrade and keep an existing install in tact and separated ?
    You might need to make a tutorial eatup :)
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  10. Posts : 1,944
    Windows 10 Home 64-bit
       #289

    I can relate to the elderly people and their computers. For example, my grandmother is still on Windows XP. She has an active antivirus subscription to keep her safe though. But, she only uses it to check her emails, check Facebook, and her banking. She says she will not upgrade until her computer quits, and it's still going strong to this day. It's a Dell. I'm not old enough to know XP, but I am learning when I help her with hers. I started out on Vista (Nothing but trouble from the get go), then to 7 (excellent), then to 8.1 (good OS...I liked it, but a lot of people didn't).
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