Microsoft silently preparing your PC for Win 10

I stopped the Windows Update because the descriptions are full of crap I've had enough.

groze said:

Brds7t7 said:

Another update which looks like garbage:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3022345

2 words I don't like "Diagnotics" and "Tracking".

And at 28mb? No thanks!!

That the logger (Some call it a key logger) that used on windows 10 preview according to one website.

Here are some of the terms

Data We Collect
When you acquire, install and use the Program, Microsoft collects information about you, your devices, applications and networks, and your use of those devices, applications and networks. Examples of data we collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; and application usage. For example, when you:
- install the Program, we may collect information about your device and applications and use it for purposes such as determining or improving compatibility,
- use voice input features like speech-to-text, we may collect voice information and use it for purposes such as improving speech processing,
- open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file, and how long it takes and use it for purposes such as improving performance, or
- enter text, we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving auto complete and spell check features."

Could you please give the URL of the page where the text in your quote is from. It most certainly is not from the KB article Brds7t7 linked to, and has nothing to do with that update.

I like you Kari, also like to know where a quote comes from.

That quote comes from the Windows 10 Preview agreement (Terms of Service). I remembered reading that after WHS noted the long startup time in W10 and wondered if "reporting" was the cause.

Yes, that is part of the Windows technical preview / Windows Insider Preview Privacy Statement, and my point remains: what on earth has it to do with the KB in question?

BTW, all tinfoil hat conspiracy geeks, I repeat this at least hundredth time counting all our forums: If you are afraid that Microsoft wants your phone number and email address in order to cause your some harm, use a local account. Using it in Windows 10, as well as in Windows 8, then blocking the cookies and never registering to any Microsoft services keeps you out of their reach. Or do you seriously think that even if you have never given any email and / or phone number to your Windows PC, they spy you using your webcam and mic trying to find out the number and email?

It has nothing to do with conspiracy, paranoia or being a geek. It is a way of life in the US that many in other countries have no conception or idea of the "Rights" granted to US residents and guaranteed by The Constitution of The United States. Specially, the 4th Amendment. These rights can not be abridged. Not even by our government.

The KB being discussed, although short on detail, has similarities in that it is meant to acquire use information from a Personal Computer.

Why would Microsoft need to be doing such things?

Tracing things that they will not tell you what they are tracing.

Surly they can make a operating system without digging through other peoples computers.

carwiz said:

It has nothing to do with conspiracy, paranoia or being a geek. It is a way of life in the US that many in other countries have no conception or idea of the "Rights" granted to US residents and guaranteed by The Constitution of The United States. Specially, the 4th Amendment. These rights can not be abridged. Not even by our government.

Not wanting to start a fight here, I just wonder which government does for instance NSA represent?

The rights granted to US citizens by the US constitution are about the same rights every civilized country grants to their citizens. In my native Finland there's not a single security, police or other organization which is allowed to listen, watch or follow me without a detailed submission to a court, which is according to the constitution only allowed to grant this permission for a specific, short period and only if the crime I am suspected of carries a multiple year sentence. And same here in Germany where I live, I am protected as any German because I am a European Union citizen.

Really, US of A is not the only country where the constitution protects it's citizens, and in many countries the protection of non-citizen residents is done far better.

That all being said, what has a constitution to do with Windows Privacy Statement? Microsoft has never forced a single user, American or of any other nationality to use Windows. If you use it, you have the possibility to check the EULA and the Privacy Statement. If one or both of them is a problem to you and you will not accept it, do not use Windows and that's it.

Kari