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Windows 7: Think Windows's Built-In Antivirus Will Keep You Safe? You're Wrong

12 Apr 2015   #31
Layback Bear

Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
 
 

I'm always open to new ideas.

I understand why you use your method. If the method I use now stops working as it should I will give your method a try.


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12 Apr 2015   #32
Lady Fitzgerald

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Lady Fitzgerald nest time you get a nasty that keep starting up at boot try Safe Mode to remove it. It will probable won't start in Safe Mode and can be removed.

All those programs that didn't find the nasty probable will in a few days because of program updates.
It's hard to keep updates updated as fast as the bad guys put out their junk.

I use SAS several times on demand several times a day and seldom find anything. Some how MSE and Malwarebytes Premium keep bad cookies out.
If it was hidden the boot sector, like I suspected, safe mode wouldn't have helped me to get rid of it. I make frequent images of my boot drive and keep up to eight weeks worth on hand (plus the first one I made when I built the computer), so simply restoring to a clean, earlier image is a lot simpler. The only critical data on my boot drive is Favorites. I have FreeFileSync set to automatically back that up to my main data drive so I can easily recover any data that gets lost in an image restore.

I agree that my other security programs (or at least one) probably would have found my nasty a few days after I found it. But who know what kind of damage it might have done, other than the adware, had I waited so I dealt with it right away. Since I had recently made a couple of financial transactions online a day or two before, I also changed my passwords just to be on the safe side. Yes, I am a coward!

SAS rarely finds anything. The most frequent thing it finds is a log file for PayPal that is generated any time I use PayPal that SAS says might be harmful. I just let SAS delete it since I need that file like I need another hole in the head.
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12 Apr 2015   #33
marsmimar

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

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I thought we had agreed a long time ago that no AV program can protect you 100%.
I've said the same thing for years.

I've also said that if there was such a thing as a "best" AV program or anti-malware program, we'd all be using it.

Microsoft has a vested interest in keeping it's operating systems malware free. Maybe I'm just being naive but I really can't imagine MS putting out a shoddy product (MSE, Defender, or any other anti-whatever) in the hopes that somebody's computer will become infected. If anyone has proof to the contrary I'd be interested in seeing it. And I'm not talking about all those various comparison tests, either. Most of the time those comparison tests have different companies holding the #1 spot at different times of the year.
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12 Apr 2015   #34
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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Most of the time those comparison tests have different companies holding the #1 spot at different times of the year.
Probably those that pay the most backshish at the time.
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12 Apr 2015   #35
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
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Use what you feel comfortable with and that suites your needs.
I think you are right Jack. Maybe more members can share their own approach. There is always the possibility that we can learn something new.
I suspect that my setup is fairly common.

I run:
  • Ad & Script blockers in my browsers (PM & FF)
  • Avast on my real PC (AVG in my VMs)
  • Malwarebytes (free) every couple of weeks
I use an additional step if I think a download might be dodgy, I use Linux Mint to download it.

I haven't encountered system-killing malware since I stopped using IE6 (XP in 2006).
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12 Apr 2015   #36
Lady Fitzgerald

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by marsmimar View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I thought we had agreed a long time ago that no AV program can protect you 100%.
I've said the same thing for years.

I've also said that if there was such a thing as a "best" AV program or anti-malware program, we'd all be using it.

Microsoft has a vested interest in keeping it's operating systems malware free. Maybe I'm just being naive but I really can't imagine MS putting out a shoddy product (MSE, Defender, or any other anti-whatever) in the hopes that somebody's computer will become infected. If anyone has proof to the contrary I'd be interested in seeing it. And I'm not talking about all those various comparison tests, either. Most of the time those comparison tests have different companies holding the #1 spot at different times of the year.
Granted, the #1 spot keeps changing but MSE is consistently at the bottom ranking.
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12 Apr 2015   #37
marsmimar

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by marsmimar View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I thought we had agreed a long time ago that no AV program can protect you 100%.
I've said the same thing for years.

I've also said that if there was such a thing as a "best" AV program or anti-malware program, we'd all be using it.

Microsoft has a vested interest in keeping it's operating systems malware free. Maybe I'm just being naive but I really can't imagine MS putting out a shoddy product (MSE, Defender, or any other anti-whatever) in the hopes that somebody's computer will become infected. If anyone has proof to the contrary I'd be interested in seeing it. And I'm not talking about all those various comparison tests, either. Most of the time those comparison tests have different companies holding the #1 spot at different times of the year.
Granted, the #1 spot keeps changing but MSE is consistently at the bottom ranking.
As I said, I'm not interested in these comparison tests. Show me where Microsoft is deliberately sabotaging its operating systems, and/or users' computers, by putting out shoddy AV products.

I've used MSE since it was released in September 2009. I added Malwarebytes 1.43 when it was released in December 2009. I haven't had any (that's zero, zilch, nada) malware infect my computers. Even when I've deliberately tried to infect my machines. For me, that's proof positive that MSE and MBAM work. If somebody else prefers a different security setup, more power to 'em. Using something is better than using nothing at all.

I've also said in the past that choosing a security product is like choosing a car or truck. Some people prefer Ford, while some prefer Chevy or Dodge. I'm not going to criticize someone for having a personal preference or knock their preference. If it works for them, more power to 'em.
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