Specific upgrade paths to get to all versions of Windows 10

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  1. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #100

    My graphic's card choice is an very expensive "might be mistake" that I have to decide on pretty quickly if I want to keep it and use it or send it back 1100.us
    I can't see me forking out 1000.us for 1/ 4k monitor to use it's full capacity so it's wasted in that respect.
    EVGA can't keep anything in stock
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  2. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #101

    I meant to post this: Part 2: Microsoft silently preparing your PC for Win 10 into this thread.

    This page has a LOT of information about the upgrade!

    Frequently Asked Questions: Windows 10 - Microsoft Community

    Including this about retail licences:

    What happens if I change my motherboard?
    As it pertains to the OEM licenses this will invalidate the Windows 10 upgrade license because it will no longer have a previous base qualifying license which is required for the free upgrade. You will then have to purchase a full retail Windows 10 license. If the base qualifying license (Windows 7 or Windows 8.1) was a full retail version, then yes, you can transfer it.
    Last edited by Brds7t7; 03 Jun 2015 at 22:48.
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  3. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #102

    One thing that is very unattractive = "With Love" :)
    It's true M$ removed windows updates control
    The only version that might have a little bit of control is Pro because of group policy last I checked but it did little last go around,
    So get used to loading anything and everything M$ puts out there Good Bad and down right Ugly.
    Code:
    Which features will be removed when I upgrade from a previous version of Windows?
    
    
    • Windows Media Center
    • DVD playback
    • Desktop gadgets
    • Preinstalled games
    • Floppy drive support
    • Windows Live Essentials (Windows Essentials)
    • Windows Updates
    • Windows Virtual PC with Windows XP Mode
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  4. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #103

    ThrashZone said:
    One thing that is very unattractive = "With Love" :)
    It's true M$ removed windows updates control
    The only version that might have a little bit of control is Pro because of group policy last I checked but it did little last go around,
    So get used to loading anything and everything M$ puts out there Good Bad and down right Ugly.
    Code:
    Which features will be removed when I upgrade from a previous version of Windows?
    
    
    • Windows Media Center
    • DVD playback
    • Desktop gadgets
    • Preinstalled games
    • Floppy drive support
    • Windows Live Essentials (Windows Essentials)
    • Windows Updates
    • Windows Virtual PC with Windows XP Mode
    Well I have the Pro version of 7 so I'd be upgraded to 10 Pro so will have some control. But yeah those forced updates on the home versions are a bit of a pain in the a**. Seems like home versions will be used as beta testers for the updates. Unless they're going to do a lot of thorough testing before they get pushed out.
    Even choosing when to install them would be at least a small consolation.
    Last edited by Brds7t7; 03 Jun 2015 at 23:08.
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  5. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #104

    Yep pro @199.us is a no go it would be cheaper to buy win-8.1 for 99.00 @ I believe Micro Center it was a add on from the monitors options I want to buy :/
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  6. Posts : 1,167
    W10 32 bit, XUbuntu 18.xx 64 bit
       #105

    Brds7t7 said:
    ThrashZone said:
    One thing that is very unattractive = "With Love" :)
    It's true M$ removed windows updates control
    The only version that might have a little bit of control is Pro because of group policy last I checked but it did little last go around,
    So get used to loading anything and everything M$ puts out there Good Bad and down right Ugly.
    Code:
    Which features will be removed when I upgrade from a previous version of Windows?
    
    
    • Windows Media Center
    • DVD playback
    • Desktop gadgets
    • Preinstalled games
    • Floppy drive support
    • Windows Live Essentials (Windows Essentials)
    • Windows Updates
    • Windows Virtual PC with Windows XP Mode
    Well I have the Pro version of 7 so I'd be upgraded to 10 Pro so will have some control. But yeah those forced updates on the home versions are a bit of a pain in the a**. Seems like home versions will be used as beta testers for the updates. Unless they're going to do a lot of thorough testing before they get pushed out.
    Even choosing when to install them would be at least a small consolation.

    I think if you turn on metered connections you could possibly delay the updates from being downloaded. I read it works that way in the w10 preview, don't know if it will for the release.
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  7. Arc
    Posts : 35,373
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
       #106

    ThrashZone said:
    One thing that is very unattractive = "With Love" :)
    It's true M$ removed windows updates control
    The only version that might have a little bit of control is Pro because of group policy last I checked but it did little last go around,
    So get used to loading anything and everything M$ puts out there Good Bad and down right Ugly.
    Code:
    Which features will be removed when I upgrade from a previous version of Windows?
    
    
    • Windows Media Center
    • DVD playback
    • Desktop gadgets
    • Preinstalled games
    • Floppy drive support
    • Windows Live Essentials (Windows Essentials)
    • Windows Updates
    • Windows Virtual PC with Windows XP Mode
    Another negative post, and simply negative for negative's sake.

    Windows media center is being discontinued because of its lack of users. Check the validity of this statement. Check this https://www.sevenforums.com/media-center/ and see its activity. If there is no adequate demand, the supplier will not be interested to produce it. How frequently you use your media center?

    Almost everybody uses other programs for DVD Playback. I use VLC. Most of the optical disc drives comes with bundled Cyberlink software. So it is not a thing to cry on, as I never cared of it when it was available.

    How many of them have a Desktop Gadget? Show us your Desktop 2

    If not having Floppy drive support is a loss, Not having a pet dinosaur is an equal loss. Correct me if I am wrong.

    Windows Live Essentials (Windows Essentials) was useful mostly for WLM which is already discontinued. There is Skype if IM is needed. Though I read a different thing:
    If you have Windows Live Essentials installed on your system, the OneDrive application is removed and replaced with the inbox version of OneDrive.
    Windows Virtual PC with Windows XP Mode was introduced with windows 7 for the migrants from XP. Who will use XP mode these days?

    The highlighted question is Windows Updates. Read it again ....
    Windows 10 Home users will have updates from Windows Update automatically available. Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Enterprise users will have the ability to defer updates.
    Is the actual reading matching with the panic reading .... "It's true M$ removed windows updates control " ??

    I am really sorry, I cannot say it anything other than extreme negativism, beyond logic.
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  8. Posts : 17,545
    Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
       #107

    Arc said:
    Another negative post, and simply negative for negative's sake.
    Extremely well said Arc.

    Every day we get closer to the official launch of Windows 10, the haters get more and more desperate to find usable weapons. Now they are closer to a corner than ever; can't complain about the price (free), can't complain about missing Start Menu (it's there), can't complain about "I am forced to cloud" (no cloud services or MS Accounts needed to run Windows 10), can't whine about "I don't want a mobile touch OS for my desktop" (Windows 10 is a full-fledged desktop operating system with absolutely no need whatsoever for a touch device or touch screen), and so on.

    As it is, they are a bit like Don Quixote, fighting against imaginary enemies.

    Thank you for your post!

    Kari
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  9. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #108

    The more I read about this, the more impressed I'm becoming. From reading everything on that page it's eased a lot of my early scepticism about the free upgrade. The main one being retail licences. At least they've been clear about what's being taken away - WMC, home update deferral, etc.
    Floppy drive? Pretty sure nobody uses those now. Gadgets can be replaced. DVD can be replaced with GOM or VLC. WMC can be replaced by Kodi or Plex.

    I'm genuinely starting to think that MS just wants to get everyone on one OS and that's a good thing.
    It'll be a lot easier for devs and everyday consumers if we're all using the same platform.
    I still won't be early adopting, but that's mainly because I'd prefer MS and other software to work out the early kinks first, but it's looking highly likely that I'll be installing it sometime within the first 12 months.

    I can understand some people's concerns though. Let's face it, Windows 7 is a rock solid OS so it'll be a hard thing to give up. Windows 10 won't be to everyone's taste. I've been impressed with what I've seen so far.
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  10. Posts : 4,466
    Windows 10 Education 64 bit
       #109

    I think the only ones really miffed by the lose of Media Center are those with TV/cable cards. I have one, but don't use it anymore. Everything is digital here now and encoded so I have no choice but to use my ISP's cable decoder box. I have a DVR in my package so my TV card is no longer needed. It came with software, Win TV I think? It sucked compared to Media Center though. Just about anything else in Media center can be done with other Apps/Programs. I run KODI on my Raspberry Pi as my Media Center in my bedroom. It's not bad once you get used to it.
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