January 12th 2016 Security Update Release Summary

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  1. Posts : 880
    Windows 7 Professional 64bit
       #20

    OvenMaster said:
    When I launched Windows Update, I immediately got an error message (can't remember the code). Internet research led me to find out that BITS (Background Intelligent Transfer Service) was set to Disabled instead of Manual. Very strange.
    My BITS is set to Auto (Delayed) so I'm not sure what you're saying here.

    I've had no problems at all updating to the recent batch of security updates, though I have NOT installed KB2952664.
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  2. Posts : 7,781
    Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
       #21

    I've noticed the same long loooong delay in d/l ing updates. Something I have penned down, it seems to only be happening on my 7 64, at least on my end. Win 7 32 has had no problems updating, 8.1 on my Wife's lappy has had no problems. The 7 64 on my PC was hanging at "searching for updates" & I thought this might be a fluke or a problem caused by something I installed until I went & tried to update 7 64 on a lappy & encountered the same problem.

    I tried several fixes for the 7 64 on the PC & finally got it to d/l, rather slowly (but at least it started working again), by going to Windows/software distribution/data store & as per MS instructions, cleared the entire folder.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/958046

    Updater has been exhibiting some strange behavior for a bit now, such as after running for 45 mins, one moment showing 0% downloaded & the next moment showing 80% downloaded. I'm wondering if this instability in the updater agent is caused on my 7 64 machines because of my refusal to allow any patch related to Win 10 or disallowing anything telemetry related on the machine.
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  3. Posts : 336
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64
       #22

    Borg 386 said:

    Updater has been exhibiting some strange behavior for a bit now, such as after running for 45 mins, one moment showing 0% downloaded & the next moment showing 80% downloaded. I'm wondering if this instability in the updater agent is caused on my 7 64 machines because of my refusal to allow any patch related to Win 10 or disallowing anything telemetry related on the machine.
    That's my experience on both my Windows 7 64 machines, not always but quite often. It sits at 0% for a while so I nip out the room and when I come back a moment later it's starting to install. I agree with your theory in that some of the updates I suspect we both hide are partly related to "enabling MS to improve the upgrade experience" so we don't want them, but they are also related to upgrading the normal update procedure. I'd rather have the intermittently slow updates than install any Windows 10 nagware or send more data to MS.
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  4. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #23

    Not sure about everyone else, but I haven't had any issues with slow updates since installing this:

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3102810

    I know a lot of people have opted to skip the newer Windows update clients because of Windows 10. But it's worked for me. And testing in newly installed VM's it also works. The scan time for all updates went from hours to around 5-10 minutes.
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  5. Posts : 7,781
    Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
       #24

    Seffrid said:
    That's my experience on both my Windows 7 64 machines, not always but quite often. It sits at 0% for a while so I nip out the room and when I come back a moment later it's starting to install. I agree with your theory in that some of the updates I suspect we both hide are partly related to "enabling MS to improve the upgrade experience" so we don't want them, but they are also related to upgrading the normal update procedure. I'd rather have the intermittently slow updates than install any Windows 10 nagware or send more data to MS.
    Well, that last part was just speculation on my part. I've disallowed any telemetry/Win 10 patches on the 7 32 & 8.1, so I would think that those would be effected by that too were that the case. Yet for some odd reason, 7 64 seems to be the OS with all the updater problems for me.

    Thanks for the link Brds7t7, I believe I may have tried that, but I'll review my logs & see if I did & if not, give that a shot.
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  6. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #25

    Brds,

    What is your d/l'd time now compared to before you installed 3102810? I've had 3102810 installed since the November patch on 11/15/15, and this is my experience.

    Excerpt is from the: Internet Explorer 8, 9, 10 support ends on January 12, 2016 thread:
    Anak said:
    My January patches went okay except for the download/install time that seems to take forever, I start the process then walk away and work at something else around the house, come back in a half an hour and I'm ready for a restart. Any other 101MB download site would only take me about 2 maybe 3 minutes, not 15 to 20 through WU.
    Yes, I do understand the millions of machines banging on the update servers at one time, but there's gotta be a better way.
    I guess I shouldn't complain though, a half hour isn't as bad a time as some I've heard.
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  7. Posts : 336
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64
       #26

    One other theory I had about the recent change in download times was that MS have reduced the download server support for Windows 7 patches by switching some of the server hardware to Windows 10 downloads. For me the actual downloading is fine, as is the prompting that there are updates when I switch the computers on, it's simply beginning the downloading that seems to take longer these days. It sits on 0% for a while, after that it's pretty quick.
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  8. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #27

    Hey Anak, well I've noticed that it does vary depending on the time of day I check for updates. Morning always seems to be a lot faster for me than at night. I'm in England though so it could be different over on your side of the world.
    In my VM tests without the update installed I've gone from as little as 2 hours to as much as 8+ hours.
    After installing that update the maximum I've waited is around 20 minutes for it to pick up all the updates. Usually though it's around 5-10 minutes to pick them all up.
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  9. Posts : 7,781
    Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
       #28

    Seffrid said:
    One other theory I had about the recent change in download times was that MS have reduced the download server support for Windows 7 patches by switching some of the server hardware to Windows 10 downloads. For me the actual downloading is fine, as is the prompting that there are updates when I switch the computers on, it's simply beginning the downloading that seems to take longer these days. It sits on 0% for a while, after that it's pretty quick.
    That's actually a very good theory because I know that this debacle with the updater being slow started right around the time of Win 10 release & went on from there. About 2 weeks into it, some of the 10 users were stating that updating was taking forever. Haven't seen any complaints about 10 updates being slow, but I have seen plenty from 7 users. So that might just be the case.
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  10. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #29

    Thanks Brds!

    Borg, I've also heard of the server shifting as described by Seffrid.
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