Microsoft Steps Back from the Cliff on Windows 10 Upgrades

What that fast start killed a 5 yo hdd ?
I gave it to my nephew he knew more about Linux than I and he couldn't do anything with it :)

essenbe said:

ThrashZone said:

Must of had a sympathetic judge or jury
Wonder how much was actual damage apposed to punitive.. ?

One of the things they asked for was a new computer which is BS. I think we all know that a bad upgrade won't damage hardware. And they said they never heard of Windows 10. That's kind of hard to believe. It's been all over the internet, on our local news a few times, plus all of the GWX pop ups? Give me a break. Just with all the pop ups, not ever hearing of it is pretty impossible. That doesn't make what Microsoft did right, but there are legitimate grounds to sue them on. Why make stuff up?

It is quite conceivable the plaintiff did not know about Win 10. The unwanted upgrade happened shortly after Win 10 first came out. There was little about Win 10 in most news outlets back then and most people record their TV shows, then fast forward through any commercials so they would have missed the moronic song and dance Win 10 commercials. This is assuming the plaintiff in this case even watched TV. I know I'm reading more and watching TV less even though there are far more channels to watch because the programming has become so bad.

We know that a bad upgrade is highly unlikely to damage a computer but most people do not, including judges and juries. Keep in mind that replacing the computer may have been less expensive than the labor needed to reinstall the OS and programs, especially since finding competent repair services can be difficult in many places.

essenbe said:

I'll never believe it.

It happened in the second or third W10TP release (b9879).
Microsoft confirms latest Windows 10 Technical Preview bricks harddisks - Myce.com

IIRC, what was happening was that W10 OS was putting HDDs to sleep, but since not all motherboards had the wakeup command (in their BIOS) the machines couldn't restart.

You could use a Linux Distro Terminal command (hdparm) to reset the HDD's Sleep command.
gregrocker had that issue and I posted some instructions for him (on TenForums, around December 2014).

Yep I believe that thread was posted by me on tenforums :)

No real loss to me it was just an irritation mostly and a wake up call that anything can happen to hardware when testing betaware os's

Probably my bad the hdd was out of my laptop after I replaced it with a ssd and was in a desktop to use win-10 on :/

Hi,
I'm not so sure about the anniversary build it might actually be the last straw :)
Defaulting to the all apps list on the start menu
Microsoft: We're planning to double Start menu ads in Windows 10 Anniv

Software can kill hardware stone dead. That is a fact. A program can run and reset options in an eeprom and then the unit will not fire up. This has happened on TV sets with faulty encoded close captioning. There is no recovery except to replace the eeprom and hope the customer does not have a copy of the show with the corrupted captioning. There are many other issues I could mention but I might get sued. Bad software can run a poorly designed laptop at temperatures higher than the unit should see. Eventually something gives up. Sometimes its the fan, sometimes the CPU or Power Supply.

Dallas 7 said:

ThrashZone said:

If anything the door is wide open for a class action now
A case is already ruled on :)

I'm waiting to see the lawyers commercials to start showing up on t.v.

That would be fun to watch! I'd love it!