Windows 7: More on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 servicing changes

Yeah, I'm as confused as you are. I went ahead and hid it just to see if it disappears when next months PT rolls around.

I suppose if you're a Microsoft programmer writing machine language 24/7, English tends to become a second language.

I'm ignoring these "Preview rollups". I'm not beta testing MS updates for them, just because they've been doing a crappy job of it themselves lately!

Sky Ranch:

What's your connection, if any, to the Reno Sky Ranch?

I'm old enough to remember it--grew up in Western NV.

See here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...update-history

No need to install unless your machine is affected by one of the issues that it fixes. I suppose that's why it's optional.

My experience: Tried installing them yesterday, "updates failed to install."

Tried today: "failure configuring updates." What garbage.

Addendum: Somehow things sorted themselves out. Computer restarted and I could see that updates installed. Miracles do happen.

Addendum 2: On checking Windows Update, I saw that everything succeeded except 3185330, the Security Quality Rollup. I tried 3 times but it wouldn't install. I then downloaded and installed the Security Only update from https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3092391. That did it.

My PC has been experiencing weird Windows Update glitches since installing this update (KB3192391).
I originally suspected it was related to the KB3177467 update.

I first noticed it when I was about to install IE 11.
I selected it in the Optional Updates list and returned to the Windows Update "home" window.
I decided that I might as well risk installing some optional driver updates, so I returned to the Updates List window.

All of the updates (Important & Optional) had vanished except for KB3177467.

   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000

KB3177467 just appeared in my Windows Update update list.

It removed every other update that had been previously been shown (e.g. drivers, IE 11, GWX and telemetry stuff).

Is KB3177467 safe to install?

Additional
People seem to be having issues with this KB3177467 update.
KB3177467

After several reboots the updates reappeared and I installed IE 11.

Additional
I just checked my Windows Update Service settings and discovered that they had changed from "Disabled" to "Automatic (Delayed Start)".

I'm certain that I set it to "Disabled" after complaining in my earlier post.

Additional
I just set Windows Update Service to "Disabled" and rebooted my PC.
When I checked Services, Windows Update Service was set to "Automatic (Delayed Start)".

I've installed both the Security-only rollup and the Security Quality rollup and the newest Servicing Stack Update (KB3177467) in different VM's. Set Windows Update to disabled and it has stayed disabled even after reboots.





Are you using MSE? I read somewhere that this can be the cause of the Windows Update service going back to Default settings. I think it needs the service to be running to download the definition updates (don't quote me on that as I never use MSE, I use Avast).

I don't use MSE on any system or VM and none of my WU settings change unless I change them.

If you're not using MSE then I have no idea what is causing your WU service settings to keep defaulting.

MES is running normally including getting definition updates while I have WU set to disabled. In fact it runs better that way as it doesn't suffer from the slowdown caused by WU constantly checking for updates each month from Patch Tuesday until such time as they are installed.

I still have GWX Control Panel installed, mainly because I don't trust MS any more but this is a timely reminder perhaps that an additional benefit of running it in monitor mode is that it will tell you if the WU settings are changed.

Hmmm... Can't be MSE causing the issue then. Possibly a 3rd party program causing it?

All I know is I had WU service set to disabled for a few months on my main system, during the 10 upgrade fiasco (I only kept in Automatic in a couple of VM's), and not once did it ever change by itself. And its never happened to me in any VM I've tested over the years, or on any OS I've tested.

No idea what causes it to happen on some users systems.

I'm using Avast too.

Since the last time I updated W7, I've manually updated Notepad++, Flash and CCleaner.

I assume that Avast has been updating itself.
MBAM Free updates itself when I run it.

Since it only seems to be happening to me, it's probably not an update issue.
It's not critical as I will be rolling my W7 install back to my pre-AndroidStudio backup image, at the end of this semester.
I can't wait to get rid of Java (and get ~4GB of space back).

Maybe it will "fix" itself after some more reboots (like the Update List).