More on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 servicing changes

Brds7t7 · 12 Oct 2016

Borg 386 said:

Yeah, interesting is not the word I would use, but I can't use that word here.....

Hellish?

Lady Fitzgerald · 12 Oct 2016

Brds7t7 said:

rdl said:

So, how to avoid telemetry, spyware and other so called "updates" ?

Once the updates become fully cumulative, you won't be able to, unless you go for the security only update option. Or unless MS does leave some updates separate. But according to their articles they want to incorporate all past patches.

Going for the security only update is the route I'm going to take...later (I want to wait awhile before downloading and installing it in case something goes pear shaped).

I found the security only update by highlighting the "Quality" (what a lie!) Rollup and clicking on the More information link. On the webpage that pops up, I scrolled down to More information and a link for the Security Only "Quality" update, then clicked on that link. On the next page that comes up, just scroll down to the appropriate update, then download and install it.

Brds7t7 · 12 Oct 2016

Swizz said:

A question concerning the Security Monthly Rollup, (199.4MB) as well. Lets just say one update fails to install for whatever reason, will the remaining continue to install?

Do you mean the stupidly titled "security quality update rollup"?

I would think as they're going to be cumulative MS would fix it in the next update and you would get both months fixes in that update.

Brds7t7 · 12 Oct 2016

Lady Fitzgerald said:

Brds7t7 said:

rdl said:

So, how to avoid telemetry, spyware and other so called "updates" ?

Once the updates become fully cumulative, you won't be able to, unless you go for the security only update option. Or unless MS does leave some updates separate. But according to their articles they want to incorporate all past patches.

Going for the security only update is the route I'm going to take...later (I want to wait awhile before downloading and installing it in case something goes pear shaped).

Unless things change over the future months, this is my plan for any new installs & VM's:

1) Turn off Windows update during setup and keep Internet disconnected.

2) After setup and I've done my tweaks, run the Dr. Windows Update Pack (excluding the updates I have on my current ignore list). This will get me up to date both Security wise and with fixes up until September 2016.

3) Scratch my head and wonder what the hell I'm going to do next.

I could keep all the security only update rollups from now until EOL. But that's going to be a lot of work installing the remaining individual security only rollups for both 7 and 8.1. Especially when I'm going to have to keep all the patches for 8.1 until 2023....

Anybody got any headache pills?

Lady Fitzgerald · 12 Oct 2016

Brds7t7 said:

...Anybody got any headache pills?

Yeah, they look like this.

You apply them at high velocity to the source of the headache.

Btw, where does one find this Dr. Windows Update pack?

Brds7t7 · 12 Oct 2016

Lady Fitzgerald said:

Brds7t7 said:

...Anybody got any headache pills?

Yeah, they look like this.

You apply them at high velocity to the source of the headache.

Btw, where does one find this Dr. Windows Update pack?

At least it's less painful!

You have to Google it LF, otherwise I get my wrist slapped!

Posted some info on previous page about it.

michael diemer · 12 Oct 2016

Once again, I find myself contemplating saying the hell with updating, just install good AV and take your chances. Easy for me, as I now live on Planet Linux. Unfortunately, my wife hasn't yet made the crossing, and I am responsible for keeping her computer both safe and Windows 10-resistant until she does. So, I will have to continue reading these painful threads. trying to sift out the kernels of wisdom among the confusion. Keep those kernels coming, you have no idea how much they are appreciated.

Lady Fitzgerald · 12 Oct 2016

Brds7t7 said:

Lady Fitzgerald said:

...Btw, where does one find this Dr. Windows Update pack?

.

..You have to Google it LF, otherwise I get my wrist slapped!

Posted some info on previous page about it.

Got it. Thank you very much!

Swizz · 12 Oct 2016

Brds7t7 said:

Swizz said:

A question concerning the Security Monthly Rollup, (199.4MB) as well. Lets just say one update fails to install for whatever reason, will the remaining continue to install?

Do you mean the stupidly titled "security quality update rollup"?

I would think as they're going to be cumulative MS would fix it in the next update and you would get both months fixes in that update.

No not exactly..

For example, the all in one package download titled "Security Monthly Rollup" Prior to October's layout if one individual update fails, it acknowledges you with an error code. This is out of curiosity, but if one did fail, will that cause the others to abort as well? Or will it simply carry on, only to leave the one at fault behind?

Brds7t7 · 12 Oct 2016

One individual update won't fail as their won't be any individuals. It'll be the whole security rollup that will fail. The rollups have all the files in one update, not several separate ones that can be separated. If the whole rollup fails then that's something MS would have to address. I'm sure they'll get enough reports back about it.