Windows users face massive update bloat, tough choices

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  1. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #30

    Haha thanks, the amount of VM's I've tested over the past few years I should be working on the Virtualbox team!

    No need for reps though mate, doesn't mean a great deal to me. So long as it's helping to clear up some confusion for users then it's all good to me!
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  2. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #31

    3Colors said:
    What are you thinking to do Brds7t7 ? Support for W7 ends in 2019. I can tolerate as everyone here have a list of patches are not installed but they are all as optional or recommended. But see the Windows update that is pending to download the "security package" (plus extras) is another matter. As to no longer sleep peacefully, like right now XP

    I do not know. I think give in to this change because right now my mind is on other things that added to all this is already a lot. Some here have already installed packages and so far so good. Except a user who had to uninstall it by finding certain problems :

    Anything undesirable in KB3185330 or KB3188740?
    At the moment I'm sticking with the security-only packages and will consider my options for later down the road. I won't be installing these fully cumulative updates though. And I've kept all past patches in a pack for future installs.

    I have no intention of moving to Windows 10 at the moment. I'll continue to use 7 until 2020 then carry on with 8.1 for a while.
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  3. Posts : 353
    64-bit Windows 7 Professional
       #32

    These patches are not for security included in the package are the "recommended" ? If it were so, even changing the option of "not receiving the recommended along with importants" would not help prevent that. That option would no longer have any function.
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  4. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #33

    3Colors said:
    These patches are not for security included in the package are the "recommended" ? If it were so, even changing the option of "not receiving the recommended along with importants" would not help prevent that. That option would no longer have any function.
    According to MS there will still be some separate updates which MS classes as "out-of-band" updates, so the option could still have some function. This will only really apply to people who have their updates set to automatic install anyway. It won't really make any difference to users who have their updates set to "check but don't download".
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  5. Posts : 10,994
    Win 7 Pro 64-bit
       #34

    Brds7t7 said:
    No need for reps though mate, doesn't mean a great deal to me. So long as it's helping to clear up some confusion for users then it's all good to me!
    Just wanted to add my thanks for all your help. Very much appreciated!
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  6. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #35

    marsmimar said:
    Brds7t7 said:
    No need for reps though mate, doesn't mean a great deal to me. So long as it's helping to clear up some confusion for users then it's all good to me!
    Just wanted to add my thanks for all your help. Very much appreciated!
    No problem Marsmimar.
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  7. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #36

    Hi,
    We might need to send you a keg of brew instead wonder if there are any virtual kegs around
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  8. Posts : 379
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 OEM
       #37

    Brds7t7 said:
    MeOnMine said:
    I can't find a "September Security only update".
    Was there one ?
    No, I was just using it as an example. The Security-only rollups only started this month.
    Thanks Brds7t7 I'll start a collection from October.

    I have just finished building a USB installer for Win7x64 with slipstreamed all (relevant) updates till September. Including Xhci and Ehci with Nvme drivers.
    Last edited by Barman58; 26 Oct 2016 at 16:13. Reason: Rant removed
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  9. Posts : 1,167
    W10 32 bit, XUbuntu 18.xx 64 bit
       #38

    If I am understanding this thread correctly. How far back do the Monthly roll-ups that you get through windows update go back?

    On a side note, it also makes belarc advisor useless at least for updates.
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  10. Posts : 152
    W7Pro/64
       #39

    groze said:
    If I am understanding this thread correctly. How far back do the Monthly roll-ups that you get through windows update go back?

    On a side note, it also makes belarc advisor useless at least for updates.
    For Windows 7, I think the first one was the May 2016 Rollup. The October rollup was the first one under the new windows update policy.
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