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Windows 7: Storage in 2017: Big improvements are on the way

03 Jan 2017   #11
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
The current world average is 20.22 Mb/s for download and 7.51Mb/s for Upload, (latest quoted on Speedtest.net by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test), which I would suggest is workable for most scenarios, Yes, not all locations are at these levels, (I'm constantly surprised at the state of the US ISP industry, It seems far behind the rest of the world, from a customer point of view).

Hopefully the available connection will continue to evolve as it has been in the future, to a level where it's as fast as normal networking and hard drives
Keep in mind that is at current internet utilization. If everyone increased their internet usage, as many software companies want, the infrastructure would collapse.

Something else to keep in mind is many ISPs impose data caps that would make depending on the cloud either impossible or prohibitively expensive.


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03 Jan 2017   #12
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.2 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
You don't need that anymore

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I wasn't speaking against the cloud; heck, I use it myself for one of my backups. I was decrying the companies who want everyone on the cloud now when more people than not do not have affordable access to the broadband internet necessary to utilize the cloud.
The problems will really start when some "bright spark" decides that some features don't need to be installed on a user's PC, because there are Cloud equivalents.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
The current world average is 20.22 Mb/s for download and 7.51Mb/s for Upload, (latest quoted on Speedtest.net by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test), which I would suggest is workable for most scenarios, Yes, not all locations are at these levels, (I'm constantly surprised at the state of the US ISP industry, It seems far behind the rest of the world, from a customer point of view).
Not only the US.
We get ~6 Mb/s download and ~1 Mb/s upload on our connection (Adelaide).

Given those Speedtest numbers, there must be some places heavily distorting the average.

I'd be surprised if our Internet service achieved those stated averages within the next decade at our "remote" location (~8 km from the city centre).
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03 Jan 2017   #13
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

No I don't think I missed the point.

Most know that the needed upload speeds are not available in many places.
Their are also many that have the internet speed where the Cloud can be used at a reasonable upload speed.
The Cloud is for those people.
Cloud storage is offered to everybody but realistically not usable by everybody because of their I.S.P speed offerings.

It would be a sad day when new products and services were not offered unless everybody could buy and use them.

I don't use Cloud storage but I'm glad it is a option.

Jack
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03 Jan 2017   #14
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Another thing people may or may not realize is exactly where they are actually uploading and downloading from the "so called cloud" could be anywhere not just straight up in the air
These misnamed servers are likely out of the country of which the person lives and at best out of the state one lives in.
These servers also probably have their own caps on delivery/ upload or download especially large amounts of data.
Some also compress original files and reserve original sizes to paying customers = review disclaimers
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03 Jan 2017   #15
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

The cloud is being forced on us. One example is Adobe products. After October 2017, one will be forced to upgrade to cloud based or cloud reliant software. MS has been pushing for it but, so far, one can still avoid it.
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03 Jan 2017   #16
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
As far as I've noticed I do not use anything Adobe
Not sure I have anything cloud based/ dependent except for Panda free.
That and net framework 4.6.1 :/
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03 Jan 2017   #17
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
As far as I've noticed I do not use anything Adobe
Not sure I have anything cloud based/ dependent except for Panda free.
That and net framework 4.6.1 :/
You may not but a lot of businesses do (Acrobat, Creative suite, etc.). There will be a sudden spike in internet traffic when businesses are forced to upgrade to the cloud based version (this doesn't address privacy issues).

I depend heavily on Adobe Acrobat Standard. I now have to to find another program to replace it (Master PDF and PDF Studio are the two in the running right now) before my current, non-cloud based version reaches EOL in less than a year. I'll still be at a disadvantage because my ADF scanner integrates with Acrobat to create direct to PDF copies. I will be forced to copy to .JPG, then use another program to convert them to PDFs (virtual printers are too inflexible to properly do the job with anything but letter sized documents) and do any needed editing (something virtual printers can't do).
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03 Jan 2017   #18
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.2 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I depend heavily on Adobe Acrobat Standard. I now have to to find another program to replace it (Master PDF and PDF Studio are the two in the running right now) before my current, non-cloud based version reaches EOL in less than a year. I'll still be at a disadvantage because my ADF scanner integrates with Acrobat to create direct to PDF copies. I will be forced to copy to .JPG, then use another program to convert them to PDFs (virtual printers are too inflexible to properly do the job with anything but letter sized documents) and do any needed editing (something virtual printers can't do).
I'm not sure what you need to do, but GIMP can capture images from scanners and can save them as PDF files.
I haven't checked out how efficient the GIMP PDF files are though.

You may still need to use one of the other programs you mentioned to "finalise" your documents.
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03 Jan 2017   #19
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I depend heavily on Adobe Acrobat Standard. I now have to to find another program to replace it (Master PDF and PDF Studio are the two in the running right now) before my current, non-cloud based version reaches EOL in less than a year. I'll still be at a disadvantage because my ADF scanner integrates with Acrobat to create direct to PDF copies. I will be forced to copy to .JPG, then use another program to convert them to PDFs (virtual printers are too inflexible to properly do the job with anything but letter sized documents) and do any needed editing (something virtual printers can't do).
I'm not sure what you need to do, but GIMP can capture images from scanners and can save them as PDF files.
I haven't checked out how efficient the GIMP PDF files are though.

You may still need to use one of the other programs you mentioned to "finalise" your documents.
I would have to use a TWAIN compliant scanner to be able to use GIMP or any other graphics program. My ADF (Auto Document Feed; it's also duplexing) scanner is not TWAIN compliant. I may be forced to upgrade my perfectly good $450 ADF scanner to a $1500 scanner to get what I have now or run my current version of Acrobat and the scanner in a VM.
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03 Jan 2017   #20
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.2 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I would have to use a TWAIN compliant scanner to be able to use GIMP or any other graphics program. My ADF (Auto Document Feed; it's also duplexing) scanner is not TWAIN compliant. I may be forced to upgrade my perfectly good $450 ADF scanner to a $1500 scanner to get what I have now or run my current version of Acrobat and the scanner in a VM.
I see.
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