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Windows 7: Windows 7 Support ends in three years

18 Jan 2017   #21
JohnPC

Triple Boot - Win 7 x64 Ultimate x2 + WinXP-mce x1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
At my age, three years will go by in a flash.


I still have a 5.25 fdd with a Cat&Weasel for times when I pine over the C-64 era

lol


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18 Jan 2017   #22
RoasterMen

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by groze View Post
I know it not you Brink. There are printers that still support windows 7 sp1. Actually, when I was looking at printers I only came across a couple that supported windows 10 most didn't. There were some that still supported windows xp and they were not refurbished. There were printers that also supported other operating systems not just windows.
My old HP F4185 Printer still works fine with Windows 10. I'm using a different printer now.
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18 Jan 2017   #23
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Because my crystal ball is still broken; I don't really know what new and inventive infections will arise in the future. I'm sure their will be many. Will they be blocked by new updated security programs is really the question to me.
I believe they will. I also believe that Microsoft will be able to create such blocking for Windows 7 after the EOL, but will not do so. The last thing Microsoft wants to do is make and or keep Windows 7 update. Keeping Windows 7 safe will slow down the move of many to W-10 and that is a big NO, NO.
Keep in mind that Windows 7 does not make Microsoft money any more. Creating safety updates for Windows 7 after the EOL cost money and time.

Buying W-10 will make Microsoft income, so that is where their time and efforts will be. I do understand that Microsoft can't keep supporting old operating system for ever.
It's plain and simple, it cost money with no return keeping Windows 7 updates after EOL.

In my opinion W-10 is still in Beta. I'm hoping by the EOL of Windows 7, W-10 will be in a stable and desirable stage for me to buy it. If not I will take the risk of using Windows 7 with the needed security programs.

Jack
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18 Jan 2017   #24
townsbg

Windows 7 pro 64-bit
 
 

As far back as I can remember every version is their best and most secure. Purely their selling propaganda. I agree Jack and I think that they are going to have just a hard of a time getting users off of 7 as they did XP. I have to admit that I understand that this is their way of making money even if I don't like where they have gone. As for this particular post they are clearly trying to appeal to the business market due to their concern that if businesses don't start working on a 10 migration now some of them won't make the discontinuation date. It could take years for some larger enterprises to work through all of the finances, studies, tests, and rollouts to get all of their hundreds to thousands of workstations, laptops, and servers upgraded. It will simply take longer to make money off of buisnesses than the average end-user when all they need to get them to do is go buy a new machine. I really wonder whom they make more money off of. On the one hand you have the consumer who gets a lower cost OEM copy on their new machines or the enterprise that pays more money for a few unlimited licenses and duplicates it across their environment. There is also the user willing to pay for a retail copy in order to update current computers. The third group they almost completely eliminated from their revenue stream by giving copies away during 10's first year. By the time 7 goes out of support they will almost certainly have another version of Windows out and won't be selling any more copies of 10. I think that they are likely desperate because not as many users upgraded from 7 as they would have liked during their first year. Which makes me wonder yet again why they gave away upgrades during the first year but I don't want to distract the topic by going down that tangent.
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19 Jan 2017   #25
MeOnMine

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 OEM
 
 

Hi, the way I understand it Microsoft have already said that 10 is the last OS they will develop.
They will continue to upgrade and refine it.
If what I just said is true then that said in the attached article is fibs.
Microsoft could have not spent the time and money into developing 10 and just put the effort into pumping up 7.
That is what the public would have preferred (in my understanding).
But no Microsoft have continued to always take the opposite of public opinion just like always.
That said, we also know the huge advantage they will now get from Telemetry!
I'll be running my Win 7 into the ground, then see what Linux has to offer.
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19 Jan 2017   #26
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Yea the "10 is more secure" stuff is pretty funny

Bottom line for me is
I haven't needed to refresh win-7 ever for real issues it was purely for manufacture crapware removal

I've reset... win-10 so many times it makes me dizzy
It will sit for 3 more years unused
10 will be so out of date it will probably blow up when it hits the internet since I rolled out of the "anniversary build" and it will stay there
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19 Jan 2017   #27
Painter

W7Pro/64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Yea the "10 is more secure" stuff is pretty funny

Bottom line for me is
I haven't needed to refresh win-7 ever for real issues it was purely for manufacture crapware removal

I've reset... win-10 so many times it makes me dizzy
It will sit for 3 more years unused
10 will be so out of date it will probably blow up when it hits the internet since I rolled out of the "anniversary build" and it will stay there
The Anniversary Build goes into extended support 8 months after W7 goes EOL.

W7 SP1, January, 2020 (EOL)
W10 Anniversary Build October, 2020. (out of mainstream support)
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19 Jan 2017   #28
margrave

Windows 10 x64
 
 

I was reluctant to move to Windows 10. But my home laptop now has 10, as does my work laptop. They work well. No complaints. No regrets. No need to drag my heels anymore.

My home desktop is still 7, but I'll be replacing it soon, and the new box will have 10.
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24 Jan 2017   #29
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

As much as I like using Windows 7 I just do not see it as a great OS anymore. . . Windows 10 isn't all that bad, nor is Linux, however, I will continue to use OSX as my main OS (been so since 1987. Just Still happy with it. Once Apple went to OSX I have been extremely happy with my MAC's.
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24 Jan 2017   #30
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.2 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by townsbg View Post
It will simply take longer to make money off of buisnesses than the average end-user when all they need to get them to do is go buy a new machine.
I thought that many businesses pay a yearly fee (Software Assurance?) and in return they get to run whatever (supported) version of Windows they like?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MeOnMine View Post
I'll be running my Win 7 into the ground, then see what Linux has to offer.
You could:
  • Convert your existing W7 installs to VHDs/VMs (using Macrium Reflect)
  • Run the VMs in VMware on a Linux Host OS

Windows 7 Support ends in three years-mr-convert-image-vhd.png
I'm running W10IP as a VM (Linux Mint 18.1 MATE Host running VMware Player).

I also have other Windows VMs, so that when I'm using LM I can:
  • Install and use Windows software (required for my TAFE courses) without "clagging up" my physical install (e.g. Android Studio, Java, Visual Studio, multiple browsers, etc.)
  • Play XP-era games


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