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Windows 7: No Windows Updates in Windows 7 and 8 if CPU not Supported

18 Mar 2017   #21
michael diemer

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

As I said, Linux continues to evolve, and become more user friendly. By the time 2020 rolls around, people opposed to Microsoft's current model will have any number of easy alternatives to Windows 7. Several Ubuntu versions, Mint, Zorin, Fedora, Elementary, Solus and others will be good choices. People currently afraid of Linux will find it has gotten much easier to deal with, and they will feel empowered as they take back control of their computers. Their chosen Linux version will continue to grow, keeping pace with the changes in hardware. There will never be a need to go through what Microsoft has forced us to go through all these years: the agonizing decision whether to upgrade or not. The upgrades will be free and painless. If they want, they can contribute, either financially or to the operating system itself if they can code. No, Linux will probably not threaten MS's existence (they make their money in the cloud now), but it will be the perfect solution for disgruntled Windows refugees. All I'm saying is, why not start now? It's a ton of fun. Really.


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18 Mar 2017   #22
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Some enthusiasts' likely will and have given it a go. It's not main stream though as far as I can tell. I'm only started using Linux because I had to. The Raspberry Pi will only run Windows 10 IoT which is like no other version of Windows and doesn't even come close to being of any use to me with what I want to do on my Raspberry Pi. That means using Raspbian which is based on Debian. I've been at it for a few years now and still would only class my Linux skills as basic. I just don't see a mass exodus to Linux happening any time soon. Even over this issue. People are used to click and install or click and run. Linux isn't that. Not in my experience anyway. The frustration factor can be very high just trying to get all your hardware running etc. Just my 2 cents based on my limited experience.
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18 Mar 2017   #23
ysu

win7 x64
 
 

Gents, may I ask if anyone knows if Broadwell-E is affected at all?
Is the broadwell-e considered 7th generation?

I've read around, and Skylake seems to be on the hitlist as well, only its support-cutoff date was changed to mid-2018 in the last minute. However, I can't really find information on Broadwell-E.

Thanks in advance!
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18 Mar 2017   #24
michael diemer

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
People are used to click and install or click and run. Linux isn't that.
It depends on the distro. Many, many apps are in fact click and install. for example, I recently installed the Redshift app in Ubuntu Mate. It was in the software boutique, their hand-picked selection of apps, culled from the much larger software center. It was indeed, click and install. (Redshift tones down your computer monitor at night, just like f.lux). Zorin ultimate comes with a ton of apps already installed, including 20 games, an expanded office suite, a bunch of graphic apps, and so on. There's a Linux for every skill level. If you actually like the more difficult distros, there's Arch. but the trend is definitely toward more and more user-friendliness. The forums are extremely helpful, like this one. I am almost always able to solve whatever problem I have fairly quickly. While I use Windows 7 on my music computer, I do everything else on Linux. My online time is 95% on Linux. If I need to, I'll continue to use W7 past 2020, if Reaper's Linux version isn't suitable for what I do. I'll just keep it offline. So, my Microsoft problem is already solved. And no, I'm no geek. I'm just not afraid to try things, and learn new things in the process.
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19 Mar 2017   #25
RoasterMen

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by michael diemer View Post
As I said, Linux continues to evolve, and become more user friendly. By the time 2020 rolls around, people opposed to Microsoft's current model will have any number of easy alternatives to Windows 7. Several Ubuntu versions, Mint, Zorin, Fedora, Elementary, Solus and others will be good choices. People currently afraid of Linux will find it has gotten much easier to deal with, and they will feel empowered as they take back control of their computers. Their chosen Linux version will continue to grow, keeping pace with the changes in hardware. There will never be a need to go through what Microsoft has forced us to go through all these years: the agonizing decision whether to upgrade or not. The upgrades will be free and painless. If they want, they can contribute, either financially or to the operating system itself if they can code. No, Linux will probably not threaten MS's existence (they make their money in the cloud now), but it will be the perfect solution for disgruntled Windows refugees. All I'm saying is, why not start now? It's a ton of fun. Really.
Linux isn't friendly at launching stuff.
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19 Mar 2017   #26
Iain

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1- Tecra W50-A:Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
Realistically from what I can see, for a lot of people, the I'm going to switch to Linux is an idle threat. They don't actually follow threw with it. Lots of people run Linux. But how many of those also run Windows on another PC or dual boot with Windows. I bet its a lot. And that's no secret to Microsoft. If Linux was a real threat this thread likely wouldn't exist.
I run Raspbian on my Raspberry Pi's. It's been a slow go for somebody that has never used Linux before. Thus I'm in no hurry to switch my daily user to Linux. I'm likely not alone in that either. If Linux was as prevalent as people make it out to be, that wouldn't be the case. Good or bad that's the way it is. For the most part, people that have never used Linux aren't in a big hurry to switch to it. People bitched that Windows 7 had to many versions. Well look at all the different distro's of Linux out there? Some pay for, some free? And asking which is best is going to get you many different opinions.
It's not just the OS, at's all the supported apps on your machine as well.

I'm running MS Office Professional 2016 X64.

Will Linux support that and other apps?
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19 Mar 2017   #27
OvenMaster

Win7 Pro 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Painter View Post
I take no umbrage with Microsoft announcing that they will not provide Windows Updates for products they choose not to support with their OS. However, I see no reason for the component manufacturers and OEMs to do likewise. If they choose to take on the responsibility for providing all the appropriate hardware drivers, then why not. Microsoft has no right to be the arbiter.

MS wants to coerce us into new product and OS acquisitions rather than convince us of their value. Maybe they should start behaving like a vendor with a quality product that deserves our attention, rather than threatening us with what best suits their business strategy.
Stockholders > Customers
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19 Mar 2017   #28
michael diemer

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Iain View Post
It's not just the OS, at's all the supported apps on your machine as well.

I'm running MS Office Professional 2016 X64.

Will Linux support that and other apps?
MS Office will run on Wine. Or you can just use Libre Office. You can share documents between the two. Another option is to use Windows as a virtual machine, so it's sandboxed within Linux. no need to worry about viruses then. Or dual boot, probably the best solution. Use windows when needed or preferred, Linux the rest of the time. I expect that eventually I won't need windows at all, with the progress the Reaper devs are making. but even if not, I will just continue using W7 as long as I need to.

The problem is that we have all been spoon-fed by Microsoft for so long that we are afraid to use anything else. It's actually quite liberating to begin to break that maternal bond and strike out on your own. It's a brave new world out there. Check it out.
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19 Mar 2017   #29
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Painter View Post
I take no umbrage with Microsoft announcing that they will not provide Windows Updates for products they choose not to support with their OS. However, I see no reason for the component manufacturers and OEMs to do likewise. If they choose to take on the responsibility for providing all the appropriate hardware drivers, then why not. Microsoft has no right to be the arbiter.

MS wants to coerce us into new product and OS acquisitions rather than convince us of their value. Maybe they should start behaving like a vendor with a quality product that deserves our attention, rather than threatening us with what best suits their business strategy.
Did I miss something? Care to post a link to said "Threatt"?
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19 Mar 2017   #30
michael diemer

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
Did I miss something? Care to post a link to said "Threatt"?
The threat is implicit, not explicit. The coercion is that we can no longer use our preferred hardware, just because Microsoft says so. We have to upgrade or stay with an outdated operating system (that still works fine and is as good as anything MS has ever produced). It's upgrading for the sake of upgrading, not because there is any real need to.

Now they are withholding monthly updates, presumably to scare us into upgrading. and the forced updates in Windows 10? Very coercive. I have no problem with it, companies have every right to manipulate and coerce us. they need to make money, people need to feed their families. The problem is that MS is a near-monopoly. What is it, 95% of market share? That's makes it different. It makes them more powerful than they have any right to be. and power of course corrupts. It's no surprise that MS has become abusive and sneaky.

But there is an alternative, for those who dare to rebel against
the tyrant.
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