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Windows 7: A cleaner, safer web with Chrome Cleanup

17 Oct 2017   #11
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Nice work Chrome - other browsers could and should do better. No wonder its one of the most popular browsers


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17 Oct 2017   #12
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.2 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Chrome has been known to hijack user settings (such as making itself the default browser when it has been clandestinely installed), one of the things it is claiming to prevent.
I believe that Google means, once they have hijacked your system, they'll prevent others from doing it.
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17 Oct 2017   #13
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I used Piriform.com and also used custom. Their was no Chrome offered but I got it anyway.

Jack
Curious. Maybe it was Unchecky that kept misbegotten Chrome off my computer, despite the installer not visibly offering it. Normally, I will get a pop-up informing me Unchecky has blocked something but I didn't this time.

Unchecky loads at boot, runs in the background, and has a very light footprint. You'll never know it's there except when it does its job and blocks a PUP.
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17 Oct 2017   #14
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
I believe that Google means, once they have hijacked your system, they'll prevent others from doing it.
Methinks you have hit the head on the nail (or something like that; I'm barely awake right now).
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17 Oct 2017   #15
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
Nice work Chrome - other browsers could and should do better. No wonder its one of the most popular browsers
Actually, I think it is the most prevalent (not necessarily popular) browser because of Google's practice of paying software companies (Adobe Flash installer is probably the most prevalent) to include a PUP in their software installers that tries to sneak Chrome (and, usually, the Google Tool Bar) onto people's computers, where it then sets itself up as the default browser. The average (and most numerous) computer users don't know how to avoid it, don't know how to get rid of it once they get stuck with it, and don't even know they can get rid of it (or why) so, once it gets stuck onto their computers, they just live with it.

Propagating Chrome via PUPs is a despicable practice and is one of the three reasons I don't like it (the other two are Google is too darned nosy and Chrome's cookie handling is vastly inferior to IE).
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17 Oct 2017   #16
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

I've never had Chrome install onto a system when I didn't mean it too. The reason people end up with an unintended Chrome installation is because they can't be bothered reading what's in front of them on the screen properly. There isn't any trickery involved, as much as people want it to be, in order to to save face.

Modern society is all about a lack of responsibility - it's easy just to blame someone else for misfortune, instead of holding oneself accountable. You see it here too - aka "Chrome sneaked on my system", "I was forced to install Windows 10" etc. etc. etc. take your pick.
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17 Oct 2017   #17
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I use Revo and still had to do a self cleaning of the registry.

Next time I will try Ccleaner.

Jack
Watch out for CCleaner - it got hijacked about a month or two ago:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3225...d-malware.html
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17 Oct 2017   #18
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
I've never had Chrome install onto a system when I didn't mean it too. The reason people end up with an unintended Chrome installation is because they can't be bothered reading what's in front of them on the screen properly. There isn't any trickery involved, as much as people want it to be, in order to to save face.

Modern society is all about a lack of responsibility - it's easy just to blame someone else for misfortune, instead of holding oneself accountable. You see it here too - aka "Chrome sneaked on my system", "I was forced to install Windows 10" etc. etc. etc. take your pick.
Even though it hasn't happened to you (and I no reason to doubt you), that doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others. Take Jack, for example. He's smarter than the average bear user and knows far more than most of us (he didn't get all that rep just by being cute and cuddly) yet even he got bit.

I had Chrome and Google Toolbar sneak onto my computer once, even though I was using an advanced installation setting on a program I was installing and saw no option to not install it (I was looking for it so, if the opt out was there, I would have seen it). I haven't been bit since I installed Unchecky.

Not everyone has the aptitude to understand computers, same as not everyone has the aptitude to be a doctor, a lawyer, or an auto mechanic. Keep in mind most computer users are not as knowledgeable about computers as most of us are and are easily fooled by deceptive practices that most of us can see right through. What seems obvious to geeks is not obvious to most people. The GWX campaign had the most deceptive series of attempts to trick people to download and install an unwanted program or OS just barely short of virus infections. It was buried in security updates and the popups it generated were often very misleading, the worst being the one that gave no option to opt out and, if you clicked on the X in the upper right corner of the popup, which pretty much everyone would assume would just close the popup, it would trigger the install. Even experts were often fooled by one attempt or another. MS even later admitted the GWX campaign was a huge mistake.
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17 Oct 2017   #19
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
Watch out for CCleaner - it got hijacked about a month or two ago:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3225...d-malware.html
As long as one now has the latest version of CCleaner, it is malware free. I never liked CCleaner anyway (too invasive) and only used its drive wiper (and even then, I would uninstall it after using it).
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17 Oct 2017   #20
CarlSD

Win 7 Professional 64 (Main PC)/Win 7 Home Premium 32 (Laptop)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Actually, I think it is the most prevalent (not necessarily popular) browser because of Google's practice of paying software companies (Adobe Flash installer is probably the most prevalent) to include a PUP in their software installers that tries to sneak Chrome (and, usually, the Google Tool Bar) onto people's computers, where it then sets itself up as the default browser. The average (and most numerous) computer users don't know how to avoid it, don't know how to get rid of it once they get stuck with it, and don't even know they can get rid of it (or why) so, once it gets stuck onto their computers, they just live with it.

Propagating Chrome via PUPs is a despicable practice and is one of the three reasons I don't like it (the other two are Google is too darned nosy and Chrome's cookie handling is vastly inferior to IE).
Not to mention the almost unbelievable situation where Google Chrome and Google Toolbar are bundled and ticked to install by default ("Recommended" lol) with the motherboard driver discs from Gigabyte.

I have 2 Gigabyte motherboards, one bought in 2015 (H81M-PLUS) and the other bought earlier this year (B250M-D3H) and both boards' driver discs have Chrome and Toolbar so they've been doing it for at least 2 years.
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