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Windows 7: Windows 7 Flying Off Retailers Shelves? Perhaps Not.

24 Nov 2009   #21
Nburnes

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit & Ubuntu 10.04
 
 

I've been running it since the beta. It was a no brainer for me when I tried it out in a separate partition on my laptop then I finally just decided to delete Vista all together.


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24 Nov 2009   #22
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I was looking at the information about 7 prior to the beta releases and was even more impressed at how well those performed over what had been seen with previous versions going back to 3.1! So far 7 has reduced the need to move up into newer hardwares since it takes advantage of things on the current build which is more then can be said for XP or Vista while Vista performed well for what it was over XP.

For those now planning on a new build or looking for a new system 7 will be a seller without question there! Plus the marketing for 7 as far as new tv ads and the like has been much more then seen for any previous version. I suspect the largest volume of new sales for 7 disks as well as preinstalled new systems will be seen during 2010 once all the yearly holiday and other expenses are cleared and people are waiting for tax returns in late Q1.
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25 Nov 2009   #23
saverio

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Windows people should consider themselves very lucky that they and business can still run XP, if this was apple the minute vista came out, all support for XP would have stopped - and Microsoft more than Apple has the muscle to do this - lets face it, who else are you going to turn to for your enterprise needs?

I think also, we on here know(ish) about the things which are the root cause for computer slowdown etc, and know that a re-install or such will give your machine a whole lease of life, but for many they just convince themselves that the computer is broke and they need something newer and faster.

Case study: A guy at work said his computer had died - vendor said 'motherboard failure' and conveniently had new stuff for him to buy. It was a simple socket 748 machine, nothing great. I took it off him, did some diagnosis, turns out that it was a hdd which had failed. Went to the local refuse site, fished another machine out of it, scavanged the hdd and a couple of cards out of it and used his xp home. He just used it as a surfing and email box - and it runs really quickly and does all he needs.

I digress,

He like many others, said 'oh it was running slowly anyway' but he was confusing OS speed with PC speed. As the poster above said, people are not used to looking at a purchase from the perspective that an OS can make a difference.
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25 Nov 2009   #24
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saverio View Post
Windows people should consider themselves very lucky that they and business can still run XP, if this was apple the minute vista came out, all support for XP would have stopped
And that is the reason why Apple doesn't have any significant marketshare in the business world.
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25 Nov 2009   #25
noyb

XP MCE .... XP Pro 64 .... W7 U x64
 
 

I wonder what would happen if M$ would update XP pro 64 ..
For all the latest hardware ...
Maybe add some more themes ...
Quit removing some of the nice tools from XP ...
And offer it as an upgrade option ???

I know several that just might buy a new computer ... Or Upgrade their Vista computers.
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25 Nov 2009   #26
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Thats just a step backward IMO.. to do that would require an extensive rewrite of the code and thats not going to be cheap....just to extend the life of an 8yr old os....
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25 Nov 2009   #27
RogerR

7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saverio View Post
Windows people should consider themselves very lucky that they and business can still run XP, if this was apple the minute vista came out, all support for XP would have stopped - and Microsoft more than Apple has the muscle to do this - lets face it, who else are you going to turn to for your enterprise needs?
M$ was recovering from a lot of bad press over Vista, and the HUGE installed base of business XP machines didn't give it much choice without a worthy successor.

There is therefore a lot of pent up demand from delayed Vista deployment and that is one thing boosting sales. I do think they shot themselves in the foot by not offering an upgrade path from XP, but that's another topic.

So far I think 7 shows a real change in the M$ mindset - its setup routine is a real step forward in terms of making things run right out of the box - instead of the previous attitude that it was up to hardware manufacturers to provide drivers (and users to find them). It deserves to be a winner.
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25 Nov 2009   #28
saverio

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Pparks1 and RogerR, I couln't agree more
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25 Nov 2009   #29
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

For Apple they're more of a hardware company with an OS. Once they introduce a few new models the older stuff there simply ends up on the discontinued items list no longer seeing any support. But they are not the only company to follow that trend when you look at pc manufacturers in general that will drop support for an older line at the drop of a coin. "That means you must buy new every so often" is the marketing ideals there.

What MS did was realize not everyone can simply throw in the towel each time a new version comes out and offers support for so long however which eventually will be dropped. With Windows 2000 support was dropping off a bit sooner for that then seen for XP. Here's one old article about IE 7 and that lacking 2000 support.

Quote:
Microsoft: No IE7 for Windows 2000

By Nate Mook
Published May 30, 2005, 10:53 AM

With Internet Explorer 7 Beta 1 set to debut next month, Microsoft has quietly closed the door on Windows 2000 users planning to adopt the new Web browser. IE7 will require Windows XP Service Pack 2 due to internal security changes that rely on Microsoft's latest operating system release.
The rest of that can still be seen at Microsoft: No IE7 for Windows 2000 | Betanews

The reason for XP extended life is mainly due to that being more of a desktop version for home users as well as seeing the Pro and Pro 64 editions while 2000 was mainly geared for small business, 2000 Pro corporate. Of course we know the story on ME already being a big drop in a heart beat lost cause.
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26 Nov 2009   #30
RogerR

7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
What MS did was realize not everyone can simply throw in the towel each time a new version comes out and offers support for so long however which eventually will be dropped. With Windows 2000 support was dropping off a bit sooner for that then seen for XP.
There are certain responsibilities that go along with owning a 90% market share.

However, given the push for smaller net devices and the ensuing rush into the Cloud, this might be one of the last OSs, or at least the last for a long time. Economic forces may push MS to accelerate the drop in support of older products and push everyone into 7. Support for old products is a major drag on the bottom line - and its only possible if you are selling a lot of new product to finance it. The superior install process, apparent ability to install readily on five and six-year old machines, and multi-version offering all make that possible.

As said elsewhere here, there are lots of happy XP users whose computers are doing everything they need right now. Win7 has no killer app, its just incrementally better at doing what people are already doing, with a nod to home theater and home video.

If there is to be a Windows 8, MS had better design it to sit behind the biggest screen in the house, and build DVR and Netflix into the media center.
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